Charlie StrossFeb 27

From bluesky:

Posit that to be judged for a sin implies that information about the sin is available to god/jesus.

Information implies entropy implies energy implies mass.

...so you can run an attack on heaven by sinmaxxing so hard Christ converts into a black hole from sheer acquired mass-energy and oneshots God by trapping him in something not even His light can escape from

Show threadMx. Chara Aznable (they/them) of PnictogenFeb 27
@cstross typically fatuous assumptions at work here. why should one assume that it takes much more information to describe a million sins than to describe only one? sins generalize with ease. that's why the concept of cardinal sins exists, because sins fall readily into a compact set of abstractions, and all individual sins boil down to "being A (the sinner) willfully injured being B (the victim)" with the rest being incidental detail in the eyes of a Creator who already knows all details of Creation anyway.
Show threadCharlie StrossFeb 27
@mxchara But sins are committed by sinners! Which implies more than one bit of information per sin. Indeed, there may be mitigating or modifying parameters. Every instance of a sin is unique and must be accounted for separately!
Show threadHighlandLawyerFeb 27
@cstross @mxchara
Is the RC Church correct that forming the intent to commit a sinful act is itself a separate sin from the subsequent act? Though in that case there's presumably a by reference value combined with vector variables for any variation from the original.
Show threadPassengerFeb 27

@HighlandLawyer @cstross @mxchara

In Reform Christianity, the religion I grew up in, the intention is the only part that is sinful.

- If I intentionally shoot you and you die, I've sinned.

- If I accidentally kill you, I haven't sinned.

- If I intentionally shoot you and miss, then I had murder in my heart and so I've sinned.

This suggests that we can run this DDOS without actually harming one another by attempting sins and foiling one another's schemes.

In order to make the sin information hard to compress, we would have to change the parameters each time we attempt a sin. Adding some arbitrary bullshit like costumes, unusual locations, things of that nature.

We'd have to be Batman villains, basically.

Show threadHighlandLawyerFeb 27
@passenger @cstross @mxchara
Except you couldn't have full intent knowing that you aren't actually going to go through with it, so you'd need one group intending to do the acts, being foiled by another group. So Legion of Doom and Justice League.
Show threadPassengerFeb 27

@HighlandLawyer @cstross @mxchara

In order to allow us to really have full intent behind our sins, we should have some really powerful being foiling us, but which lets us go after each attempt.

It may be necessary to create Superman, in order to fully enable our sinning.

Show threadHighlandLawyerFeb 27
@passenger @cstross @mxchara
Attempts to create a superman have historically been a substantial source sin in themselves.
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@HighlandLawyer @cstross @mxchara

This sounds like an excellent idea, I'm in.

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