Fuck Github, Microsoft has made it impossible to create an account without linking to hardware or phones

https://lemmy.today/post/48477851

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They also own Visual Studio Code, control VSCode, and effectively control the VSCodium soft fork.

What do you mean about VSCodium? Obviously it’s just a differently compiled version of Microsoft’s text editor, but what does Microsoft have to do with it, otherwise?
ā€œOtherwiseā€ is doing Herculean lifting here when the code is nearly 100% Microsoft. The way they control it is by changing VSCode’s code, which is then dutifully incorporated into VSCodium, with the exception of telemetry code.
VSCodium has never promoted itself as anything more than a compilation of VSCode’s base with telemetry disabled and proprietary components, naturally, not included. It has never promised anything else than that. Of course the changes are ā€œdutifully incorporatedā€ into Codium. It’s not a point of that project to be different. Your first remark made it seem like Microsoft has somehow infiltrated the VSCodium project and changed what it does.

it’s effectively the same as chrome vs chromium. google/microsoft invests the resources to develop it, and someone simply comes and forks it without the closed source parts or telemetry.

which is fine, but means they still get to dictate how the software works. the best real world example i have is chrome and adblockers, or google-made web ā€œstandardsā€.

Yeah. Your example: How many forks of Chome/Chromium have rejected Google’s Manifest v3 changes? Zero, because they’re all soft forks and don’t have the resources to hard fork.
Google Chrome - Wikipedia

Didn’t Vivaldi? I don’t really use them cause I mostly avoid non-FOSS software, but I seem to remember them announcing they’d be keeping support.
Both Edge and Brave still support Manifest V2.

That’s good to hear.

Edge is proprietary and Microsoft has deep pockets, which explains how they’re able to do this. I wouldn’t assume they’ll continue to do this, and no one can fork their code should they switch to Manifest v3.

Brave seems to have managed to both remain open source and maintain several revenue streams that add up to quite a lot.

Edit to add: Brave’s Manifest v2 support appears to be limited, and Microsoft has already started their planned retirement of Manifest v2.

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You dont need hardware verifications with vscode, nor an account, it works with a vpn, u can disable copilot.
Those aren’t the types of control I alluded to, as you can see upthread.
Any recommendations on a good general use IDE? I’ve enjoyed Geany a bit here and there myself but honestly I’m just using vim for most things these days. CLI is just so quick and efficient for most use cases, but I still hold out hope for something different.

I don’t have any general recommendations. IMO most of them disappoint, because most of them don’t understand the languages they support very well. It was Microsoft that invented Language Server Protocol and almost every editor adopted. I’m not very impressed by it, and it seems to be stagnant.

AFAIK the best example of an IDE having a deep understanding of its language is DrRacket, which is specific to Racket. The best one that I’ve actually used is JetBrains’s IDEs, enough so that I pay money for it.

This YT video is specifically about a Clojure IDE by one of its developers, but it explains some general shortcoming of a lot of code editors, and why IDEs that understand their language(s) well can be so powerful. www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOi8V4qsdVY

Language Server Protocol - Wikipedia

I’m curious when this happened. I literally created a new account for GitHub this week, only using an email address, and on Firefox. No wonky tests or anything needed.
Fuck computers they’re war machines.
ā€œHow about a nice game of chess?ā€
No thanks, I stopped enjoying chess a loooooong time ago and I always hated humoring people and playing it, Chris Hedges had a great show about the psychology of chess players. I’m responding more for the sake of having some kind of interaction, I got the joke.
No worries man, glad you got the joke. I don’t play chess either
I’m just being an isolated internet denizen trying to spark up conversation at any opportunity.

Some people: Hey do you want to play a game where you’re forcred to limit your options while you give up ever more figures representing various subjects of a European medieval kingdom until you only have a couple of pieces left on the board which represent the nobility?

Me: Not really

Same here, I was just quoting the movie War Games
Never seen it, is it good?
It’s a great early 80s movie about Matt Broderick('s character) hacking into a ā€œsupercomputerā€ that’s programmed to simulate and potentially execute nuclear war, check it out if that seems up your alley

Sounds okay, is irony the right word to use when we have mad men trying to use AI for that exact purpose? I also heard that it’s the reason why Chomsky was MIT so that generals could eventually just talk to computers.

Fucking computers, paul cockshott had a great video on the history of computing machines, they were always used for shitty fucking purposes. I loved the book WE as a teenager maybe I should reread it.

I miss the days when I used to love technology and be excited about all the great things it could potentially do for society. Now I’m a luddite trying to stick to older and simpler stuff at most while I cynically point out all the awful ways technology will be used by the selfish and the powerful
Sure but that’s about 8 years too late en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GitHub#Acquisition_by_Micro…
GitHub - Wikipedia

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I’ve wanted to for a while, but this post gave me the final nudge I needed to just buckle down and try selfhosting my own. Forgejo was incredibly easy to set up and my buddies and I are already successfully collaborating on a project that I’ve moved over from Github. So thanks for making your rant post, you made a difference
It has been like this for years