mhoyeFeb 28
What if I could convince you that taking the same time to explain detailed requirements and carefully validate results with a junior colleague instead of a chatbot would not only give you two people who understood the code instead of zero, but if you do it a few times in a row you eventually get a senior colleague out of the deal for free.
Show threadarclightFeb 28

@mhoye But then we'd have more senior employees who'd know what they were worth and expected to be compensated accordingly and when we didn't, they'd leave to work for a competitor instead of being laid off as junior staff. Why should we train our competitors' new hires?

I honestly can't tell if I'm being cynical and sarcastic or if this is actually what they teach people in Business school.

Show threadmhoye
@arclight good news! If you’re using the chatbots you’re already training your competition, you just don’t know it.
Feb 28 at 5:15pmWeb
Show threadShae ErissonFeb 28
@mhoye @arclight This seems obviously true. I don't understand how companies can possibly allow their "secret sauce" to be part of the training inputs for their competition. I predict a return to trade secrets.
Show threadPozorvlakFeb 28

@shapr @mhoye @arclight I believe it goes "you pay us a shitload more money, we pinky-promise not to use your developers' chat sessions to train our models".

Though that makes the models *less* useful to your developers, because they don't learn any of the idiosyncrasies of your proprietary systems!

Show threadaspraggFeb 28

@shapr @mhoye @arclight What perplexes me is that from at least the mid-'90s to about 5 years ago, the secret sauce/source was the most secret, most precious commodity the company had, and under no circumstances could anyone outside the company be allowed to access it, glimpse it, or even be provided with any hints as to its dark mysteries. And now, companies are just "quick, we have send all our repos as input to this foreign company's magic box that we don't even really understand!"

Wut?

Show threadarclightMar 1
@aspragg @shapr @mhoye If you just churn the code base every 6 weeks, and replace all your tech staff with contract vibe coders, does your source code still have value? Just print out all your Sooper Sekrit Prompts, seal them up in an old mayonnaise jar, and bury them under the CTO's porch.