A buddy of mine’s grandad once got drunk with us when we were like 17ish, and told us that no matter we did, we should never join a fraternity in college.

Apparently, when he was in college, he got sucked into this cycle of hazing and sunk cost fallacy (not what he called it, but that’s what I think it was). It started off pretty basic, and ended up with him and a couple other pledges being dressed as girls and servicing all of the brothers for a weekend. Including, and this is a quote, “taking it up the ass. The other two guys got some butter shoved up their first, but I didn’t.” Said he bled for days and couldn’t tell anyone, because then they’d call him a faggot and probably kick him out of school

I’m assuming it’s not quite so bad anymore, but lemme tell you, I never once considered joining a frat after that tearful old man relived his fucking horror story to us while drunk

Poor granddad. 😐

they’d call him a f-slur and probably kick him out of school

How can the fraternity kick you out of school? Do they have that amount of authority or influence?

Probably due to it being within the times that being gay/ socialist/communist/anything non-conforming, could lead to social expulsion with no protections. Someone could probably complain to a dean and they would just rubber stamp a removal from the school. It hasn’t been that long since that was the reality really.