☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆UK regime joins the unprovoked war of aggression against Iran
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Our forces are active and British planes are in the sky today as part of coordinated regional defensive operations to protect our people, our interests, and our allies - as Britain has done before, in line with international law.
GnuLinuxDudeIf it’s in line with international law they should be defending Iranians against the illegal aggression of the USA. Though obviously that’s not kid starver’s meaning
SanguineParHow is that joining with what the US and Israel did?
It’s protecting British personnel from any attacks that may come as a response to the US/Israel action.
But the statement explicitly says “The United Kingdom played no role in these strikes.”
Starmer is also catching criticism from the Conservatives and Reform because the UK hasn’t been involved
On the UK 's response to the US-Israeli strikes on Iran, shadow foreign secretary Dame Priti Patel told the BBC she found it “absolutely astonishing” Sir Keir had not been more proactive in its support.
And from here
Nigel Farage, leader of Reform UK, wrote on X: “The Prime Minister needs to change his mind on the use of our military bases and back the Americans in this vital fight against Iran!”
Meanwhile Emily Thornberry, a senior Labour MP and often critic of Starmer said:
"I am pleased to see the UK is not involved in these strikes on Iran. They are ill-advised and illegal.
What the personels are doing there to begin with and by allies they means israel and the usa
Those are fair questions - but neither of them make it the case that Britain “joined” this attack.
I think you can join an attack indirectly. I think defense is part of offense . For example Germany , France and Canada did assist the USA in Iraq war while claiming to oppose it . They sharing intelligence about the resistance groups and grant overflight rights to U.S. military transport planes
Ok, but other than just making assumptions, we have no evidence that the UK did even that here.
My main point is that OP seems to think that trying defend troops already stationed in the region (whether they should be there or not) counts as being part of this attack. Which it really doesn’t. As far as I know, American planes didn’t even get to take off from any UK bases.
The UK government/military has done plenty of heinous shit over the years, not least Iraq. I’m not pretending otherwise - but on this one, so far, it doesn’t seem like they’ve really done anything.
They haven’t condemned it either, of course, but from what we know so far, it’s simply factually incorrect to say the UK joined in on this particular attack.
I think defense is part of offense
It certainly can be. But it can also just be defence - if they’re sitting there with Iranian missiles heading at them, it’s hardly surprising or unreasonable for them to try and intercept and prevent.
As far as I know, American planes didn’t even get to take off from any UK bases.
And now they are to be allowed to do that. FFS.
BBC News - UK will allow US to use bases to strike Iranian missile sites, PM says www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqj9g11p1ezo
GollumIt’s a matter for them to wait a day or two and say “look what Iran just did, we need to retaliate them”
Kid Starver is a disgusting piece of shit and i hope he doesnt have a peacefull death
That’s misrepresenting things. He’s said british planes have been in the air protecting british air bases and personnel. They UK has not been involved in the strikes on Iran.
Starmer’s rhetoric however is aggressive, blaming this entirely on Iran when the US and Israel have decided to attack Iran. I’m no fan of Iran’s regime, but I’m not a fan of countries unilaterally attacking other countries, and Starmer is being a hypocrite given he usually talks so much about “international law” but is not condemning Israel and US aggression.
The tankie down vote train has arrived for a quite reasonable take 😂
We all know Israel and US have launched unprovoked strikes thinly veiled as “preemptive” (Christ what horseshit). The axis of evil continues unpunished.
And calling Iran’s retaliations as “indiscriminate” and that they have no right to retaliate is completely absurd.
I am completely confident in my stance that unprovoked attacks are bad, and even handed and equivalent retaliation is unfortunately necessary (the death toll of which is on the hands of the original attacker). Similarly, I can be happy that Ali Khamenei is gone, despite the abhorrent illegality of his murder.
As a child I could see that the Iraq war was horribly illegal and unjustified, in the same way the Invasion of Ukraine in 22 was an unjustified escalation of the Ukrainian civil war.
Fuck imperialism in any form. Fuck murderers. Fuck repressive dictators.
Does anyone else think that us being nuked by China would be a good thing at this point?
I don’t think a nuclear holocaust would help things, but I sure would love to see China start cutting trade off.
Geez you cute .ml weirdos, there’s billion of reasons to hate the UK and Kid Starver - no need to misinterpret the statement, it clearly doesn’t say what you put in the title >_<. Truth matters tbh.
that’s very clearly the UK participating in the war:
Our forces are active and British planes are in the sky today as part of coordinated regional defensive operations to protect our people, our interests, and our allies - as Britain has done before, in line with international law.
This does not say they’re joining the “war of aggression against Iran”. Shooting down Iranian missiles doesn’t equal strikes on Iranian territory.
They’re very much a participant in the war. That’s what joining the war means. You don’t have to take offensive action to be a participant in a conflict.
Least willfully disingenuous shitlib
ConselheiroHopefully you will reply rather than sneak away with a smug look on your face like your kind usually does.
So it’s clear – they must never be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon.
That remains the primary aim of the United Kingdom and our allies – including the US.
[…] As part of our commitments to the security of our allies in the Middle East we have a range of defensive capabilities in the region – which we’ve recently taken steps to strengthen.
Our forces are active and British planes are in the sky today as part of coordinated regional defensive operations to protect our people, our interests, and our allies - as Britain has done before, in line with international law.
We’ve stepped up protections for British bases and personnel to their highest level.
They should refrain from further strikes, give up their weapons programmes, and cease the appalling violence and repression against the Iranian people – who deserve the right to determine their own future, in line with our longstanding position.
Emphasis mine. Despite saying “we didnae do it and we wouldnae done it”, this is quite clearly stating that they’re militarily helping their ally, the US, with regards to their goals, which include changing Iranian internal policy and governance altogether. Or am I mistaken somehow? Please correct me.