floofloofFeb 27

It Can Now Be Plainly Said: Trump Is Planning a November Coup d’État

https://lemmy.ca/post/61065870

It Can Now Be Plainly Said: Trump Is Planning a November Coup d’État - Lemmy.ca

cross-posted from: https://infosec.pub/post/42694823 [https://infosec.pub/post/42694823] > > Trump has no power to “decree” that voters must present ID or to end mail-in balloting. But that doesn’t mean he can’t at least try both. Under the Insurrection Act or some other dusty statute, he can declare a state of emergency. Then he can decide that said state permits, nay requires, him to take extraordinary measures. On October 5, say, that might mean outlawing early voting. By October 13, it might mean no mail-in voting. By October 29, a reminder that all voters must present ID to vote. And by Sunday, November 1, two days before the election—an announcement that all these “reasonable” measures have alas failed, and he is now forced, against his will, to postpone the election.

Show threadBlackLaZoRFeb 28
Can anyone tell me what’s the big deal with voter ID? It’s a standard in EU, Noone complains about it there.
Show threadwolfpack86Feb 28

In my experience in an EU country, sufficient ID was also provided freely by the government (eg a social security card).

This is not something in the US that is free. ID must also be a photo ID. So let’s say you have a job where you work 7 days a week and take the bus because you don’t have a driver’s license. To get sufficient ID you must then: take unpaid time off of work, get to an office that issues ID, pay like $20 for such an ID… All to have the opportunity to exercise the right to vote.

This is both a tax and an unreasonable burden, effectively disenfranchising millions of poor people.

This is solvable though, if the government issues free IDs and sets something up to facilitate people getting their photos taken. However that would never be executed effectively, nor would people support paying the costs.

Show threadBlackLaZoRFeb 28
$20 once every like 10 years is unreasonable?
Show threadBigDanishGuyFeb 28
For an ID? No. For voting? Yes. Having to pay anything for voting is a problem. Just as having to stand in line all day, thus paying by not earning, is a major problem.
Show threadBlackLaZoRFeb 28
It’s an extremely small cost for ensuring most important democratic process is untampered. The opposition for voter ID check is completely unreasonable
Show threadBigDanishGuy

Believing that everyone can find money for an ID is extremely privileged.

I have had students who couldn’t put together the equivalent 15USD, without a month’s notice. In the US you have entire families being homeless, we don’t.

Feb 28 at 12:11pmWeb
Show threadBlackLaZoRFeb 28
Well that’s great, since next elections are far more than one month away. You just made an argument that even poor students can afford it
Show threadBigDanishGuyFeb 28

I also made the argument that you shouldn’t have to pay to vote, but you don’t like to respond to that. Only that you through your immense intellectual powers have found the logical loophole, that made me debate whether I should even make my comment.

Is the age of your account an indication of your intent to troll, or do you care to explain, why it’s OK to require people to pay to vote? Not why it’s not unaffordable, but why it’s OK to require payment to vote.