MTZFeb 28

Current events dictate that I post this.

https://lemmy.world/post/43673386

Show thread20celloFeb 28
To those who’ve down voted this,why if I may ask? Genuinely curious
Show threadTja

Russian bombs are bad not because of the flag, but because they consistently target civilians indiscriminately. Plus the whole invading a neighbor, murdering the people and stealing the land.

Say what you want about Bush, even that war criminal didn’t go as far.

Feb 28 at 11:48amWeb
Show threadporous_grey_matterFeb 28

Say what you want about Bush, even that war criminal didn’t go as far.

Genuinely not defending Russia here, but Dubya’s pretext for invading Iraq and Afghanistan was if anything even flimsier than the “justification” for the Ukraine invasion.

Show threadTjaFeb 28
The estimates I’ve seen are 300.000 killed in Iraq. There’s more Russians killed alone than that, let alone Ukrainian military and civilian casualties…
Show threadporous_grey_matterFeb 28

Ok, some in Yemen and Somalia too, but Wikipedia claims the cost of life of the gwot was 4.5 million, and I’ve seen credible estimates as high as 6.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_terror

War on terror - Wikipedia

Show threaddrathFeb 28
Just 15172 civilian killed in Ukraine, according to UN, though. About 40k injured. That’s the lower estimate, yes, but, in comparison, the USA has committed more than 100k confirmed civilians kills in just Iraq alone.
Show threadRotheMar 1

and that war killed way more people, civilians and not.

No it fucking didn’t. The completely delusional claim of yours is a good example of why this blanket statement is so stupid.

Show threadporous_grey_matterMar 1
You can just look up the numbers. 400k civilians directly killed, on the low end, millions more dead from famine and displacement. Versus like 15-20k in Ukraine
Show threadZombiFrancisFeb 28

Say what you want about Bush, even that war criminal didn’t go as far.

Any point you might’ve had about land acquisition, separatism, or imperialism, is pretty hard invalidated by this comparison. Like, why add Bush as a qualifier?

Show threadTjaFeb 28
To prevent tankies from accusing me of US bias.
Show threadAmnesigenicFeb 28
Not helping your credibility
Show threadTjaMar 1
Said the tankie…
Show threadAmnesigenicMar 1
Yes, and as usual the tankie is correct
Show threadTjaMar 1
Said the tankie…
Show threadAmnesigenicMar 1
Lol try harder halfwit
Show threadTjaMar 1
Nah
Show threadAmnesigenicMar 1
Weak
Show threadTjaMar 1
Nah
Show threadAmnesigenicMar 1
Yeah
Show threadTjaMar 2
Nah.ml
Show threadAmnesigenicMar 2
Cope
Show threadTjaMar 2
SER
Show threadAmnesigenicMar 2
Cope
Show threadTjaMar 3
SER
Show threadAmnesigenicMar 3
Cope
Show threadTjaMar 3
SER
Show threadAmnesigenicMar 3
Cope
Show threadTjaMar 4
SER
Show threadRiversideMar 1

Russian bombs are bad not because of the flag, but because they consistently target civilians indiscriminately

Bush, even that war criminal didn’t go as far

Could you provide us what numeric estimates you’re using for both conflicts?

Show threadTjaMar 1
I did in another comment…
Show threadRiversideMar 1
Then copy paste them
Show threadTjaMar 2
Too lazy
Show threadRiversideMar 2
Ok NAFO troll
Show threadTjaMar 2
That’s new…
Show threadRiversideMar 2
The US murdered 150k Iraqi civilians, Russia is thought to have killed about 15k Ukrainian civilians. Stop pushing western imperialist propaganda.
Show threadTjaMar 2
The US invasion of Iraq killed about 300k people. Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has killed about 500k people.
Show threadRiversideMar 2
How many are civilians on each war
Show threadTjaMar 2
You moved the goalpost by using civilians only, I value every human life, even the Russians.
Show threadRiversideMar 2

every human life, even the Russians

Least russophobic German

Show threadTjaMar 2
Not German, but cool story