BREAKING: U.S. and Israel Bomb Iran Amid Peace Talks

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Whelp, it looks like Star Trek was on the nose. This is probably the year World War III begins.

EDIT: WWIII last 27 years.

You forgot Eugenic Wars.

Instead of genetically engineered superhumans we get kleptocratic asshole billionaires and AI.

Instead of charismatic Khan Noonien Singh future gets a sickly pale Mark Zuckerberg.

If you’ve been watching all of Trek, you’ll know that the Eugenics Wars no longer have a fixed point in time. WWIII on the other hand hasn’t changed.
Who the fuck will trust the US when they bomb you during peace talks

Trump did this last term too, we killed their intelligence chief when he landed for peace talks with Iraq.

This is a war crime, BTW. Attacking someone under a perceived state of truce or ceasefire is called “perfidy”.

And was, IIRC, widely praised for it by the pundit class.
I think the “beauty of our weapons” and “Trump became president today” was a different instance from the Soleimani killing.
There were multiple instances. I remember… I think it was Isikoff, asking “are you celebrating” or something to that effect. The only thing stopping universal praise was how scared people were it would start a war. That’s currently starting.
Hmm maybe, don’t know much about him personally(but probably do his work) I just remember TV media pundits, especially the so called anti Trump media pundits, having an orgasm on TV over bombing on Syria I think.
Oh, yeah, that one definitely happened. The minute it looked like Trump was gonna play ball on their plans for Syria, the entire foreign policy apparatus stopped giving a shit about anything else he did.

I still remember 2017, when Donald decided to drop the MOAB on Afghanistan and Fareed Zakaria praised him effusively on CNN.

Guess he learned the lesson.

War crimes don’t mean anything. It is a cudgel the victor uses to do more damage after they win.
disagree. What Israel did to the palestinians has meaning and is legally defined globally as war crimes. I am not willing to say those laws and global agreements have no real meaning.
I hate to disagree, but laws and rules have no actual meaning if there isn’t an enforcement mechanism. Considering how long Israel and the US have been committing war crimes without even the lightest of punishment for those in charge, whatever enforcement is in place is obviously insufficient.
What did Trump say recently? Something like: “I have no need for international law. The only thing that can stop me is my own morality.” (Obviously, the wrong words, because he doesn’t speak that well, but the same meaning.) We all know what his morality is like. He’s OK with fucking little girls, and, possibly, killing them. The only morals he has is doing things to benefit himself.
Just goes to show how much the FIFA peace prize is worth!
Huh, every single recipient of the FIFA peace prize is a rapist and convicted felon. Odd.
Even the President of Puerto Rico?
The paper towel thrower in chief
The US and israel are not looking for peace.
Iran signaled thgat they were going to give them everything they asked for so they attacked instead. They never wanted a deal, they wanted a reason to start a new zionist war on the American taxpayers dime.

Iran signaled thgat they were going to give them everything they asked for so they attacked instead.

When? It was more like they were signalling they’d be willing to go to the mat rather than become a US puppet or whatever Trump had in mind.

Its linked in the main article cbsnews.com/…/us-iran-deal-within-our-reach-oman-…

No enrichment, full inspection by IAEA, no stockpiles.

U.S.-Iran deal is "within our reach," Omani mediator says

Negotiators from the U.S. and Iran have made "substantial progress" toward a deal to curb Iran's nuclear program, Omani Foreign Minister Badr Albusaidi told CBS News on Friday.

Ah, thank you. I have a strong feeling Oman is leaving bits out, though. Since when has a nuclear deal with Iran been that easy? They have no reason to trust the US, especially after they blew up their own deal the last time. And Trump is hard enough on people who aren’t US enemies at a vulnerable moment.

I’m not the only one who’s been saying a confrontation was inevitable. The only real question is how far Trump is willing to go before he TACOs.

Iran already had a nuclear agreement with the USA and other countries, which Trump tore up during his first term before he bombed them. Then a few years later they’re about to agree to his replacement deal and, as they prepare to sign, Trump bombs them.

No one will want to negotiate anything with the USA after Trump’s behaviour in the past year. No agreement with the USA is worth the paper it’s written on.

I think those are over.
Good. Iran needs to change. The regime is too oppressive killing any Protestant how can anyone expect change other than violence. It would be good for the world too, no terrorism and more western Iran would great.
Get fucked, calling starting a war “good”. Learn some empathy before you die a monster.

You think that the US bombing Iran is going to reduce terrorism? What the fuck do you think inspired alqaeda and ISIS? This will validate every terrorist organization’s hate for america.

Please read any amount of history before regurgitating talking points on a subject that you clearly do not understand.

If only anyone could’ve known that america is a piece of shit county full of cowards.
The world is pretty short of upstanding countries at the moment. They are all compromised by far-right facsist supremacist zionism and the pedophilia honey traps Epstein conducted (in service of Zionism). Are you from some place thats free of that?
Mass surveillance has everyone in a honey trap, but it will be more like petty blackmail to supress dissent. My favorite thing is that none of it really matters if they raped kids and got away with it. Like, I don’t really care that my neighbor had an affair if the president’s a kiddie diddler.