floofloofTrump Says He's 'Entitled' to Illegal Third Term as Allies Draft Voter Suppression Decree
That’s one hell of a sense of entitlement.
TrackinDaKrakenSo, is our military going to need to step up to ensure a fair election next year, and also prevent Trump from taking office again? That is, assuming he, A) lives that long, and B) somehow pulls this off. Isn’t that why they are required to swear an oath to the Constitution, and not the President? Does that actually hold any water?
OoopsThe military? Probably not…
But you might get a federal agency already cosplaying as a para-military group to overlook the election and make sure you’re voting correctly. 👍
The governor of every state has the right to call out that state’s National Guard in the event of emergencies, and it is my sincere hope the states start to do it pre-emptively, NOW, even via state legislation, so that the NG are already under orders to protect the polls by the time November rolls around.
Without the NG, he has nothing tested and true but ICE, and their numbers are shit compared to the National Guard.
Look, if the U.S. Military were going to uphold the Constitution he already wouldn’t be President anymore.
Eh. I mean he is clearly shitting all over norms, blatantly corrupt, most likely treasonous, and robbing the fucking treasury blind, but all of that stuff is Congress’s responsibility to hold him accountable and draw lines and they have failed.
I don’t know if you can point to any part of the constitution that he has clearly violated. But the two term limit is codified. The supreme clutter doesn’t need to weigh in, the stupidest motherfucker in the country can do the math to see it’s unconstitutional (they might not care, but they can see it).
If folks want to toss the constitution, great, they just tossed the basis of authority for the President, Congress, and the Supreme Court. Guess we get to writing a new one.
I hesitate to declare this is the line he won’t be allowed to cross, because he’s sailed over every other one. But I really think the entire system of government is shot if he does this. We would certainly be a failed state at that point, where right now we are kinda Schrödinger’s Failed State. We may already be, but we’ll have to measure it post Trump.
Ferrousthe stupidest motherfucker in the country can do the math to see it’s unconstitutional
It’s not at all unconstitutional for Trump to enjoy a third term as president. All the Constitution says is that he can’t be elected a third time. There’s nothing that says he cannot run as VP and then succeed into POTUS once Vance steps down.
You can’t point to something he’s clearly violated? What? The most obvious and clear example is the emoluments clause, but it’s easy to add in the first and fourth amendments. (Preference given to Christianity, and search and seizure without probable cause, as examples.)
Let me clarify my point. Those are all abstract things that require Congress or the Supreme Court to step in and draw lines. We’ve had in god we trust as the national motto for decades. There is a gray area there that can be argued and low-engagement voters just see it as noise.
But everyone can count to three. Everyone knows you get two terms and no more. Everyone knows you have to win an election to be President. It is unequivocal. Inarguable. So I think it carries weight in a way that those other violations of the constitution have not.
I never meant to create ambiguity around his illegal actions, just draw attention to how this act would be distinct from the rest.
Sterile_TechniqueEvery single person in the military swore an oath to defend the Constitution from all enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC.
Domestic enemies like Donald Trump pose a much greater threat to our country than any conventional combatant with a gun or missile - the military is already oath-bound to engage him the same way they do any other enemy.
The inaction from them so far doesn’t paint a very promising picture regarding their willingness to actually do what’s right to protect our country; but we also don’t need the entire military to unite against that traitor: we just need a single one of them with the right training to apply through skills.
Servicemen and women: please actually do your job.
you obviously have no idea what “do your job” means here… military are trained to kill, do you really want them to “do their job” in US streets?
you obviously have no idea what “do your job” means here…
Don’t conflate ‘doing their job’ with the misuse of force they’re famous for. We need them to do their actual job, not just blindly follow orders into a series of war crimes.
military are trained to kill, do you really want them to “do their job” in US streets?
Yes, contingent on those streets being populated by enemies of the US like Donald Trump / members of his regime / ICE.
you seem to be conflating military with police. you want them wantonly murdering Americans in the street? stfu lunatic.
Your maga is showing.
MAGA would love to see military in the streets murdering people, I’m the polar opposite of MAGA.
At best, you’re what’s called “blue maga” as you’re purity-testing your way right into supporting his regime.
I kinda doubt it though, since you’re just ignoring what’s being said to keep parroting the same strawman shit over and over: either your reading comprehension really is that bad, making you a useful idiot for the Trump regime; or you’re deliberately posting in bad faith with the goal to advance the Trump regime in the first place, making you the kind of Nazi that does recognize the evil that’s happening, and fucking loves it.
What’s your goal here?
wtf is “blue maga”. this binary shit of blood in the streets or you’re MAGA is insane, not even worth discussing.
my goal? not blood in the streets at a minimum. what is your goal? murder anyone who doesn’t have your approved thinking?
why does every discussion on the internet these days feel like talking to a bot or a Russian agent trying to sow chaos?
crawl back in your fucking hole and stop advocating for violence.
wtf is “blue maga”.
Literally described it in my previous post.
this binary shit of blood in the streets or you’re MAGA is insane, not even worth discussing.
You’d be correct if that’s what we were discussing. You’re arguing against something that was never pitched in the first place - that’s called strawman, and is a big part of why your posts reek of MAGA - they love pulling that shit.
my goal? not blood in the streets at a minimum.
Whose blood?
what is your goal?
I stated my goal in my first post here, which is to encourage military personnel to act on their oath instead of blindly following the orders of the evil dipshits their oath compels them to slay.
murder anyone who doesn’t have your approved thinking?
Strawman again. That particular flavor of strawman is also rampant in MAGA posting. Whether or not Nazis - particularly, those Nazis currently in power, and using that power to enact global scale atrocities - are people who are worth preserving isn’t the kind of thing that boils down to a difference of opinion any more than a tsunami could be described as just a wave. Technically correct? Sure. Difference in scope? Not even a little bit comparable.
why does every discussion on the internet these days feel like talking to a bot or a Russian agent trying to sow chaos?
Do you feel that dropping that line makes you less suspicious? Cuz the whole blue MAGA act stands out like a sore thumb.
crawl back in your fucking hole and stop advocating for violence.
No. Advocating for the preservation of Nazis is advocating for violence. Calling on people who swore an oath to fight those Nazis to actually do so is justified and overdue. There are no options on the table that don’t involve violence; nor is you coming to the defense of the aggressors.
CharlesDarwinSorry, asshole - the only thing you are entitled to is life in prison.
I feel like this would be civil war
I have a mounting suspicion that a civil war is what they really want. Anyone know if that’s in Project 2025?
WideEyedStupidI highly doubt it. All evidence so far points to most Americans either shrugging or actively supporting this and a minority of Americans either complaining about it but doing nothing or organizing yet another lawful protest that’s not going to change anything.
Trump has been getting away with everything, because Americans accept it. And yes, I know, it’s not every individual American, but as a whole… they do accept his crap. He wouldn’t still be president otherwise.
What odds are the bookies giving on hamberder clogged arteries winning before this term is up?
This guy gets a full body MRI (probably every year one or two). Judging by the timeline I would guess they started that as a response to Biden’s prostate cancer.
I wouldn’t hold my breath. Any significant medical condition they’ll find months in advance. There’s a reason why ultra-rich dipshits like Murdoch are seemingly indestructible.
Yeah I know, unfortunately. But I’m still holding out that living as a narcissist for his entire life has put a ton of strain on his body and he’ll have a stroke or something. He’ll never admit it (obv), but he knows tons of people hate him. Just look at how he reacts to any negative attention, like the recent SOTU where he got pissy that the dems wouldn’t stand and applaud for him.
Deep down in his lizard brain he knows he’s a piece of barely human garbage and it wears on his fatfuck old bones.
I wish you were right. I really do, but unfortunately, it’s really hard to understand true malignant personality level disorder narcissists like Trump. He doesn’t care because he thinks he’s the only one in the entire world or universe that exists.
Narcissists like this, they see everyone else as a puppet whose strings are dropped when he leaves the room, waiting for him to come back where they will then reanimate. That’s how they see human beings other than themselves. They literally can’t give a shit even if they wanted to about other people. You could more ask a person who has colorblindness, and can’t see red and green, to see red and green, then you could convince a narcissist at the level of Trump to care about another human being.
Even if it seems like he cares about someone else, it’s just that his agenda lines up with theirs. It’s always about him, always. Extreme narcissists are very predictable, they all act this way. Some people are narcissists on a much lower level. In fact, a lot of people have a smidge of narcissism, but the ones that are extreme narcissists, there’s no hope for them.
He doesn’t think he’s human garbage because he thinks he’s the only human being that exists, therefore, he thinks everything he thinks and feels is the only thing that is right and true. Nothing else registers. He doesn’t think or care that other people hate him because he thinks he’s the only person that matters and exists. It’s hard for us who aren’t like this to understand it, but when you’ve had a parent like this, you get to know the patterns.
I dunno, some of that sounds more solipsistic than a narcissist. He’s trying to shovel admiration (however fake or fawning it usually is) into a bottomless daddy-shaped abyss in what passes for his soul. If he truly didn’t care what people thought he wouldn’t react with reflexive infantile petulance and anger to his critics.
He’s barely had a conscious thought in his entire adult existence, but his subconscious knows his pain. Some people can shrug off criticism but it’s festering deep down in him somewhere that he can’t access. If he hadn’t been born with a million silver spoons up his ass he’d have been long dead already.
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I wonder if those odds count if he steals the election, as that site says “win”.
There’s gotta be someone out there giving odds on him dying though.
jordanlund“Because Joe Biden cheated!”
“So what you’re saying is you deserve a term to replace the one you lost in 2020?”
“Yes!”
rose56Anyways half of the USA will immigrate, maybe UK or somewhere in Europe, and the rest will stay there, stacked with Trump telling lies. Like why would you want to fight for you country? jeez.
SuavevillainLong term effect of not seriously holding this man accountable for Jan 6. He thinks he is untouchable.
pelespiritRepublicans stopped any kind of accountability and are not firing him now. They can stop him at any second.
wonderingwandererWe should stop calling them “trump allies” and start calling them “trump axis.”
CorkyskogEuropean here. Is a third term actually illegal/unconstitutional or is it “just” defacto illegal/unconstitutional?
It’s the 22nd Amendment
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once
Pretty unambiguous.
Extending his rein would mean he either Stops Elections, gets the constitution amended, or most insidious… just refuses to transfer power, and seeing if our military is actually complicit with the pedophile class against its own citizenry.
Jan 6 is going to completely embolden them to try again. Is there enough MAGA to make it happen again despite it all?
EDIT: extended rant
The wording on that second part confuses me but Canadian here so I’ve only ever voted in elections for local representation as we don’t vote for prime minister the Crown’s representative picks them. Does the vice president just get to serve the rest of the term without actually being elected? I honestly just assumed a second election was held and the vice president served in the interim.
The second part means that if you took over as President during someone else’s term (for example if you were VP when the President died and you took over) and served for two years or more of that term, you can only serve one more term. So however you become President, you can’t serve more than two terms.
Not American, but yes. You can look at the wiki if Lyndon Johnson who became president after JFK was killed.
AnitaAmandaHuginskisCould nature and biology please take care of Trump, please. Before billionaires fund, find and can afford life-extending drugs and live for 200 years.
bearboiblakeTrump isn’t the problem, he’s a symptom, US imperialism, capitalism, western chauvinism and nearly a century of liberalism led us here. We need to remove the ruling class from power, hold them accountable, restore justice, and create a new future, free from the corrupting influence of capitalism
He might also just have one of his sons run for President and him as VP…