The whole value proposition of Delta Chat for me was that it gave me a chat-like interface for my personal email account, plus E2EE with anyone I could convince to use it too. No more it seems. This decision by DC devs forces me to either put up with encrypted gobbledygook in my inbox or switch to another email app.

Most of the family and friends I convinced to try DC have since uninstalled it. I have maybe one contact still using it. So I'm afraid it's the end of the road for me and DC.

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I'm surprisingly sad about that. Delta Chat has been a regular part of my communications with family and friends since about 2020.

When I first adopted it, I managed to convince a lot of them to try it, presumably because they could use it with an existing account. I really hoped this could lead to a critical mass of usage that would allow it to displace Meta's Messenger, which is what most of them used.

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Sadly, corporate email providers soon started taking steps that made it harder to use Delta Chat reliably with their services. If at all. One by one my family and friends stopped using it.

Meanwhile the DC team seem to have abandoned this bootstrapping strategy. In favour of improving UX for those of us with the knowledge and motivation to take extra steps to use software that respects our rights. At which point it started to lose the point of difference it had with XMPP/Matrix apps.

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It seems that process has now come full circle. To use Delta Chat, people are expected to set up a dedicated email account for it, and connect to a specialist server running their ChatMail package or something similar. So it has no UX advantage to balance out the many disadvantages it has compared to XMPP or Matrix apps.

Thanks DC, it's been a good run. Guess I better start looking through F-Droid for another mobile email app. Any recommendations?

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@strypey I started testing Delta Chat last year and quickly came to the conclusion that using a Chatmail server was the least worst option for chatting, but I never attempted to use it to do anything with my normal email account other than chat with people.

this is kinda like when Signal ditched SMS support, you can see why they did it but some people weren't happy (including me at the time) and forked it.

@strypey FWIW the "dedicated email account" and Chatmail account are one and the same and onboarding is super easy, you just pick a Chatmail server and go.

there aren't zero warts - it's too easy to run a Chatmail server in problematic ways, and they aren't standardized with respect to sane storage quotas - but the actual flow of making an account and such was pretty easy.

if you change your mind, I can recommend a server or two that should be decent.

@deutrino
> when Signal ditched SMS support ... some people weren't happy (including me at the time) and forked it

Were you involved in any of the forks? I used Silence as my SMS app for a while.

> if you change your mind, I can recommend a server or two that should be decent

As I said, I can't see the value in adding yet another chat account to manage. I need less admin debt, not more. Anyone willing to use a ChatMail account is most likely just as willing to use an XMPP or Matrix account.