Steve Troughton-SmithFeb 26

Now Marathon is open to everybody, so I'm going to talk about it.

I played 17 hours solo, and it was a miserable, sweaty experience, with a very low time-to-kill with excruciating respawn/matchmaking times when player count is low. The art direction is beautiful in theory, but the bland flat map design and inscrutable UI does it no justice.

I don't think I went a single round where something worth recording happened. It is just not at all geared for the kind of social dynamics in ARC Raiders

Show threadSteve Troughton-SmithFeb 26
I hope Marathon finds its audience, because it's unique enough that I would be sad if it bombs like Highguard or Concord. I would love to see a singleplayer game in this setting; the trailers have made this thing out to be something completely different from what it actually is, and far more awesome. But I won't be buying this, and would rather scratch my eyes out than play any more of what's there today 😅
Show threadSteve Troughton-SmithFeb 27
Guess what game name you can't type into Marathon's chat? 🤡
Show threadSteve Troughton-SmithFeb 27
People are saying 'information overload' a lot when talking about Marathon, and that was one of the things I struggled with: every darn texture in this game has writing on it — there's text and numbers everywhere at different angles — so actually figuring out where you're going and what you're supposed to be interacting with can be a struggle
Show threadSteve Troughton-SmithFeb 27
Time to kill is especially frustrating; the game gives you tools to see people in infrared from across the map without them seeing you, so the moment you decide to open up they'll be downed pretty quickly. On the receiving end of this, this completely sucks. It'll happen over and over when you have lower-level gear. That's if the overzealous AI doesn't get you first — it can be pretty hard to tell the difference between player and npc
Show threadSteve Troughton-SmithFeb 27
Part of the information overload too is the sound; there is constant background noise of spaceships flying overhead, or things being airdropped in, or localized events, or players' special powers going off, with directionality being pretty hard to determine. Just loud, sourceless 'scifi' audio, whirs and hums and clicks and beeps
Show threadSteve Troughton-SmithFeb 27
Once you're spotted, all nearby AI has a supernatural awareness of you at all times, and can shoot halfway across the map. Turrets were especially frustrating, and trying to break their focus was annoying. I didn't enjoy fighting these anywhere near as much as the ARC in ARC Raiders
Show threadSteve Troughton-SmithFeb 27
There was such a big deal made about adding proximity chat to Marathon, both by the community and by Bungie when they finally did it, but in 17 hours of play not once did I hear somebody use a mic. There were no emotes or social tools, no 'don't shoot!'s, nothing. This game is not going to have anything like ARC Raider's passive community — it's kill on sight
Show threadSteve Troughton-SmithFeb 27
Given enough time, I think Marathon could have been shaped into a great game. But not one of its technical tests was well-received. They tried to hide that by keeping the most recent tests under NDA and doing a strong marketing push instead, which I think is pretty dishonest. The game looks amazing in their marketing videos! It feels like they want to give the impression of having turned the game around, without actually turning the game around or indeed listening to feedback
Show threadSteve Troughton-SmithFeb 27
I don't think that if you liked ARC Raiders you'll like Marathon. I think if you liked Tarkov, you'll probably just play (or watch) Tarkov. So Bungie is aiming for some kind of middle ground playerbase between Tarkov and ARC Raiders that I think they hope they can draw from the Destiny playerbase, who will expect to kill on sight, get loot, and respawn quickly. I dunno about that…
Show threadPatryk
@stroughtonsmith I think Arc got carried significantly by the spectacle the game creates, mostly thanks to their "mobs". Marathons mobs are classic Destiny sponges, completely not fun to play and trivial as long as you position well (way more dangerous in close quarters, but there's not much of that on the first two maps). Additionally, I think the first zone - Perimeter - is a very poor introduction. Too open, too boring, too repetitive. It doesn't help that Marsh is not that much different.
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