geneva_convenienceFeb 27

How Nazi Germany spreads xenophobia

https://lemmy.ml/post/43779003

Show threadjacksilverFeb 27

How are they defining “foreigner” here, cause non-German citizens accounting for a 1/3 of all crime sounds really high and concerning.

To be honest, having a third of your population be immigrants sounds crazy too. Even in the US it’s only about 1/6th the population and half of those are naturalized citizens.

Show threadorc girlyFeb 27

It’s about whether they’re ethnically German or not, even if you’re a German citizen but you’re a different kind of white European you’d count as an immigrant there.

Not only that, but we know that immigrants and marginalized people as a whole are overpoliced, so even police statistics are generally racist, which is part of the reason for this kind of statistic. The rest can be explained by marginalized people being generally poorer and lacking the same opportunities and access to jobs, education, housing, etc, so the likelihood of someone being homeless or extremely poor and desperate is much higher for those that are marginalized. So the better comparison isn’t with immigrants in the US, but rather black people in the US, who are also overpoliced and whose material conditions have been greatly shaped by systemic racism.

And lastly, most crime isn’t violent crime, and most crime committed by marginalized people disproportionately affect other marginalized people from their own community.

Show threadclaimsou
I have some doubts about your answer. Statistics that are accounting the origin of people are against the law. You can only report stats on nationality. So what you write is very surprising. This said the point about what is crime exactly and what this graph really considers as a crime is not clear and open to manipulation.
Feb 27 at 5:15pmWeb
Show threadclaimsouFeb 27
Checking a bit more on that . Tracking the ethnicity is forbidden by the GDPR (article 9) so it would be illegal to do in Germany. So either this graph has fake stats or it’s a non police survey or it’s reporting criminal with a foreign passport.
Show threadorc girlyFeb 27
I looked into how Migrationshintergrund is tracked and apparently you’re right, officially in Germany it’s about whether you or one of your parents were born without a German citizenship (so someone who has a German parent and a non German parent counts, same as their non German parent). I got confused because the term is informally used to also include people who aren’t considered ethnically German, so my bad.