"are software engineers Real Engineers or not" is a pointless distraction. software engineers who don't know how to deal with guilt love to self-flagellate with it and other than that there's no basis in reality for that discourse. do something useful instead
@whitequark i can do both
@astraluma yes, but I'd prefer it if you stuck to the latter!

@whitequark well, mostly at the moment i'm squinting at code and going "this has the wrong aesthetics"

which is definitely not Useful:tm:

@astraluma I'm quite fond of seeing code as an art form that deserves consideration from an aesthetic angle! can't let EEs have all of the artwork to them can I

@whitequark yeah, but it's not going to help me ship this tool, and it's only going to somewhat improve maintainability.

it just Feels Wrong and despite my vast command of this language and its frameworks, I'm at a loss as to how to adequately remedy it.