Sgt_choke_n_stroke

"Elites run everything"

https://lemmy.world/post/43618201

Feb 26 at 10:50pmWeb
Show threadrobocallFeb 27
If all the profits go to the owner/shareholders, I don’t understand the incentive to work harder than required
Show threadCowbee [he/they]Feb 27
Thus one of the fundamental limits of capitalism.
Show threadThatGuy46475Feb 27
Annual bonuses
Show threadSarah Valentine (she/her)Feb 27
It’s not a bonus if you earned it, that’s just called pay. You should be earning that money by default.
Show threadLost_My_MindFeb 27
I don’t get an annual bonus. I don’t get benefits. I don’t get health care. I don’t even get full time hours.
Show threadrobocallFeb 27
more like anal bonus, amirite?
Show threadSarcasmo220Feb 27
A have a family member who is full MAGA and does exactly this. Then he will describe something that he thinks is a good idea, and when I point out to him that he is describing socialism he denies it. It is very frustrating!
Show threadAnebFeb 27
I found out a really good way to describe how I feel in these situations. Ball up your fist then in a single swing knock your family member to the ground. If you completed step 2 pat yourself on the back comrade
Show threadPrunebuttFeb 27
Forgdt the \s tag? (For our neurodivergent folks)
Show thread‹Hexa«Back›Feb 27
ewww backslash
Show threadSarcasmo220Feb 27
Sometimes that becomes very tempting!
Show threadPrunebuttFeb 27

Is it possible to direct these conversations away from semantics? It seems you two actually agree on stuff, but not on hou both of you call it.

Just don’t call the stuff you agree on socialism and focus on how Trump actually fights against this.

Show threadSarcasmo220Feb 27
I have tried, for sure. Certain things he seems rational about and can get some agreement. Then he will say something sexist, racist, and/or xenophobic which invalidates what we just talked about.
Show threadPrunebuttFeb 27

How does it invalidate the things you agree on? Or does it make you not want to talk to him nnymore?

Because you can explain why sexism/racism/whatever is counterproductive on a tactical/logical level without bringing morals into the mix.

Show threadSarcasmo220Feb 27

I guess it mostly invalidates what he said previously. Like we can agree that the US government will take away people’s rights if left unchecked by the people, but then he will say that the government needs to deport all immigrants without care for due process, lock black and brown people for protesting, and to keep women out of leadership positions.

I point out the contradictions, but he says it still makes sense to him.

Show threadPrunebuttFeb 27

First of all: kudos to you for still not having given up talking to that guy. I think I can imagine that frustration.

Maybe, instead of pointing out the contradiction, you can try to make him realize how the lack of due process, locking up protestors and keeping groups of people out of leadership positions will hurt him in the end.

Show threadSarcasmo220Feb 27

Thanks for the kudos. I mostly keep in contact because we grew up close as kids all the way through college. He got wrapped up into the manosphere crap during the pandemic so for me it’s a relatively recent thing.

I will certainly keep trying and give your advice a shot.

Show threadwpbFeb 27
Please keep that in mind next time a democrat tells you they have to move more right to win voters. Your family member is very far from unique.
Show threadeldaviFeb 27
they used to show pics of soviet era public housing and nowadays it’s way better than living in a tent in the midwestern winter
Show threaddoingthestuffFeb 27
Because human nature is first and foremost selfish and self serving.
Show threadNutWrenchFeb 27

Communism. A system of government where the rulers use the media they own to keep the lower and middle classes fighting with each other while they . . the rich . . . run off with all the f*cking money.

Oh wait. That’s capitalism. I don’t know how I got those two systems confused.

Show threadSgt_choke_n_strokeFeb 27
Common mistake
Show threadILikeBoobiesFeb 28

Communism is the one without a government.

It’s a handy way to differentiate between them.

Show threadUnderpantsWeevilFeb 28

Oh wait. That’s capitalism.

No no no. That’s Communism, because of the big government.

Under capitalism everyone can do their own research and the smartest, strongest, bestest ones become the leaders through hard work. Then they become famous due to their natural animal magnetism, solve all of the problems, and spend their golden years pumping out hundreds of babies so that their righteous seed forms the foundation for the next generation.

Under communism, everyone gets tricked into thinking they’re equal, which defies natural law. And then the trickster evil communists make all the babies. But those babies are weak, so the civilization fails.

That’s why only the whitest civilizations are capitalist.

Show threadEtzelloFeb 28
Turns out humans just suck! :D
Show threadBilSababFeb 27
lefties are weird and counterproductive at times. We have house maintenance union which handles the renovation planning. at the same time, we have numerous lefty activists living in our apartment complex and they stand against this union because they consider it pathetic and think local government should handle everything. grade a hypocrisy
Show threadILikeBoobiesFeb 28
Do you feel the same about police unions?
Show threadBilSababFeb 28
there’s a difference. our union is self-organized - literally just a bunch of home owners taking matters into their hands so to speak. police union is state-run organization and it’s a money laundering clownshow on a good day.
Show threadMysticMushroom1776 [Ze/Zir]Mar 2
Communism is evil. Capitalism is best, it gives us glorious AI that we can jack off to