@kristiedegaris although I have to admit that regarding genrative AI, I have forged over time a pretty strong and intransigent opinion 😅

@sknob @kristiedegaris thanks for taking this discussion out in the open, I found it a good and thought provoking read.

There are bad actors in all industries, AI is no different. Still AI has been around for years in many different forms, and we don’t always see where the use relates to us - it’s not all LLMs.

What we see now is big LLM companies, forcing development with an unethical approach, being normalized by a variety of actors, included in products most people use.

@sknob @kristiedegaris personally I find it way more problematic using Windows, than prompting an open source LLM hosted on servers run on sustainable energy - and they exist.

But I really miss regulation on training data, bias, security and more, which is a huge problem.

But Microsoft closing the e-mail of a judge, because Trump lost his temper, how can people even think of using such a system? (I use it at work, and work hard to change it).

@mosgaard yes, there are countless examples, unfortunately. I use Apple stuff and feel pretty bad about it.

(That judge also lost access to his bank accounts, credit cards, and anyone who helps him, including his family, is liable under US law for aiding and abetting a terrorist. And the EU has done nothing to help him. Crazy story).

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@sknob @kristiedegaris yes, it’s really a paradox of the time, that so much of our digital life is dependent on actors we have no control over.

As a disabled person myself it becomes this huge paradox, and this is where I think Kristie’s perspective is valuable.

Disabled people do not always have many choices if we wan’t to support ourselves, and when society fails to support - or just not work against - all kinds of support can be necessary.

@mosgaard that’s why I was interested in @kristiedegaris’s opinion. I’m quite certainly ND, and have some more severely disabled people in my immediate close circle, so I hope I’m not too clueless about the matter. What makes LLM’s so annoying though, is that they are so recent, and yet we seem to have already caved to their inevitability and normality, as if they’d been around forever…
@sknob @mosgaard I doesn't come across that way to me, I think people are so interested because of the novelty. For me, they are a useful tool, but maybe there will be other useful tools in the future, or society will get its act together and provide much needed resources for disabled people.