New York sues Valve for 'letting children and adults illegally gamble' with loot boxes

The lawsuit aims to “stop Valve from promoting gambling features in its games, disgorge all ill-gotten gains, and pay fines for violating New York\u2019s laws.”

New York sues Valve for 'letting children and adults illegally gamble' with loot boxes

The lawsuit aims to "stop Valve from promoting gambling features in its games, disgorge all ill-gotten gains, and pay fines for violating New York’s laws."

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Is anyone else wondering if this is going to turn into another attempt to try to force face scans and id uploads?

Ideally the rule would be to just flat out not allow loot boxes, but I can’t help for feel the government is going to try to use this opportunity to justify age verification requirements instead.

This similar thing happened in Belgium and the Netherlands about a decade ago.

While the court case was ongoing, the real world effect was that games with certain lootbox features could not be released on the Dutch market without restricting its sale to adults. In practice this just meant that game publishers either disabled the feature in the Netherlands and Belgium, or didn’t release the game at all.

To my knowledge lootbox mechanics in games are still banned in Belgium

scl.org/12540-loot-boxes-are-not-gambling-under-d…

However, in the Netherlands, lootboxes were eventually found to not be gambling. The courts went along with EA’s argument that while lootboxes are a game of chance, the game around them is a game of skill. And therefor videogames with lootboxes should not be considered gambling under Dutch law.

Loot boxes are NOT gambling under Dutch law - Society for Computers & Law

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I live in Belgium and the law is there, but it seems pretty much ignored. At the time there were some games that were changed (battlefront II 2, overwatch, FIFA, etc…) But it seems like everything that came out after just ignores the law. CS2 still had lootboxes, genshin impact, rocket league, apex legends, league, etc…
They changed the loot boxes in e.g. dota2 to always show what’s in them, the argument being that you’re no longer gambling then since you see what you buy. This of course conveniently ignores the fact that the gambling aspect just moved to the lootbox you buy after the one you see
Well here in the netherlands I couldn’t download the mobile pokemon trading card game. And I can’t bet points on twitch either when someone does a prediction. So there are still sometimes restrictions.