PeerTubeDec 9

🐙 We just published the 8th version of #PeerTube !

New video player, collaborative channel management, improved import system…
With each update, PeerTube improves to better meet your needs!

In a new blog post, we review these new features, as well as the past year and our plans for the future.

Check it out on Framablog!

👉 https://framablog.org/2025/12/09/peertube-v8-manage-your-videos-with-your-team/

Show threadBlue LumaDec 9

@peertube the image look really AI-generated 🫣

EDIT: IT IS NOT

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Show threadDavid Revoy

@blueluma It's amazing how the big industry has brainwashed the audience. I now collect this type of accusation no longer monthly, but weekly. And as a digital painter with more than 25 years' experience, I understand why. In fact, my work (and other, billion) has been used to train those AI models, so AI paint like us. But please stop accusing work that you are not 100% sure about. When real humans are behind it and have spent full days creating that imagery, it hurts a lot.

@peertube

Dec 9 at 3:01pmWeb
Show threadBooteilleDec 9
@davidrevoy @blueluma @peertube 
Show threadLe piafDec 9
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Show threadBlue LumaDec 9

@davidrevoy @peertube I totally agree. Sorry for the baseless accusation.

I hate AI generated images that I see a lot, too much and I would like to stop this trend so that real human - like you - can draw some mind blowing paintings 💖

Show threadDavid RevoyDec 9
@blueluma @peertube ❤️ No worries at all then, and thank you for your reply. 👍
Show threadmeduz'Dec 9
@davidrevoy @blueluma @peertube It looks fantastic. Also I'm not familiar with any PeerTube branding or character, so right now I'm wondering if there's any sort of lore or universe where ironing is important. :D
Show threadDavid RevoyDec 9

@meduz You can find more illustrations I've done with Sepia, the little mascot of Peertube here: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/artworks/framasoft.html

I designed the mascot back in the start of my Mastodon account, here on the Fediverse, with poll and feedback from my followers. ☺️

@peertube

Framasoft - Pepper&Carrot

Official homepage of Pepper&Carrot, a free(libre) and open-source webcomic about Pepper, a young witch and her cat, Carrot. They live in a fantasy universe of potions, magic, and creatures.

Pepper&Carrot
Show threadDavid RevoyDec 9

@meduz So, about the 'Ironing' bit, we wanted to show an indie filmmaker filming a scene like in the Superman movies. We had a good laugh at how Sepia designed a filming studio set with household items to simulate flying on a green screen. That's because this illustration was aimed at people who make indi-budget videos, for the internet.

@peertube

Show threadSebastian Crane 🏳️‍⚧️Feb 26
@davidrevoy As usual, the illustration is really cute! In this case, I hope Sepia has made sure that the iron is unplugged, as we wouldn't want the fire brigade to be required..!
Show threadpygDec 9

@davidrevoy @blueluma @peertube

Show threadEmelia/EmiDec 9

@davidrevoy Interesting to see a bit of the process, and I think one of the issues might be the compression-induced "vaseline filter" on the image in the original post? Your post has a much less compressed version that's much sharper and thus more obviously not AI (My initial verdict was "probably human, low confidence" due to the compression making it hard to confidently determine "human" until your post)

(But I can see where the original accusation was coming from, even if I would never have made it myself: with the heavy compression in the original post it's much harder to determine if possible "tells" are actually tells, or just Compression...)

Show threadDavid RevoyDec 9
@becomethewaifu You've got a good point there, Emelia. It looks like the illustration in the original post was edited, with lots of reduction or enlargement filters or JPG 'smoothing' compression. A lot of the texture has been smoothed out, and the AI really goes to town on smoothing things (these 'AI gen' image techniques are Denoiser on steroids, after all). The full resolution ( https://www.peppercarrot.com/0_sources/0ther/framasoft/hi-res/2022-11-25_Peertube-v5_by-David-Revoy.jpg ) reveals really the details and brush strokes.
Show threadEmelia/EmiDec 9

@davidrevoy In this case it's more that the smoothing hides the other tells than being a tell itself, if that makes sense? Like in the original I can see the crisp shape of mini-Sepia on the lower screen, but in the compressed version it just looks like a detail-less smear (which is exactly what "AI" tends to do for those types of details) but it isn't clearly a nonsense-blob, so I couldn't confidently say it was a tell, and not just the compression smearing it.

Also, at least on my main monitor (but not my secondary; will check my actually color-calibrated laptop later), the color grading on the light in the upper left happens to match the "AI piss filter" color pretty closely. The screen having a very 'pure' blue makes it clear that it's not the piss filter, since that's always over the entire image when present, but some people might not realize that.

EDIT: got left and right backwards again...

Show threadThomas Frans 🇺🇦Dec 9
@davidrevoy The art looks just as good as all your other stuff 
Show threadJari Komppa 🇫🇮Dec 9
@davidrevoy @blueluma @peertube
I wonder how many of these are actual people and how many are bots put out there just to sabotage artists..
Show threadBlue LumaDec 9
@sol_hsa @davidrevoy @peertube not sure there is a need for bots to sabotage artists, ai is already doing it pretty well
Show threadRonald vd W.Dec 9

@davidrevoy @blueluma @peertube For me, what stands out most is the actual content: models seem to have a tendency to cram in as much superfluous detail as space allows whereas artists tend to carefully choose which details help to tell a story.

Also: sheer joy. Generated images tend to lack joy.

Show threadStemyDec 9
@davidrevoy @blueluma @peertube It's the most misaimed hatedom i've ever saw, it's not like you weren't heavily critical about AI in your own art.
Show threadmia 🏳️‍⚧️🐇Dec 9

i simply can not imagine how tired you are of receiving such comments about your art, it must feel so disheartening. it's not fair. your art got shamelessly stolen and by consequence was tainted with constant ai association


Show threadSindarina, Edge Case DetectiveDec 9
@davidrevoy @blueluma @peertube Love your work, David 💜
Show threadSosoDec 9
@davidrevoy @blueluma @peertube I notice that the blog post does not explicitly credit you.
Which is weird because Framasoft does it when it's an illustration in the middle of an article, that's actually how I discovered you and all the beautiful art you make.
Show threadRowynDec 9
@sgued @davidrevoy @blueluma @peertube I thought that was weird too!
Show threadPeerTubeDec 10

@sgued @davidrevoy @blueluma

Hi!

Thanks for pointing this out! We added credits in the bottom of the article.

Show threadtuxmainDec 9
@davidrevoy Imagine. Some day, when AI will have been the norm in art for years but AI suddenly disappears (because the bubble explodes or raw materials become too rare), then prompt-artists are forced to work without it, but the trends have been formed by AI so they try to imitate AI, drawing uniform soulless nonsensical scenes in square canvases.
Show threadDavid RevoyDec 9
@tuxmain I thought about this theme, the future of AI. Also had a little vertigo thinking that a future generation will feels nostalgia in 20 years about the really bad AI slop 'style' of our era, and will try with their modern AI to emulate the glitch of the "AI from the 20s".
Show threadWilliam B PeckhamDec 9
@davidrevoy @blueluma @peertube I have been following your work and enjoying it very much, starting from before this AI bubble inflated. Anyone who could make such an accusation is simply ignorant. I have to admit, some of your work actually looks too good to be a human construct: but I know better.
Show threadDavid RevoyDec 9
@wbpeckham  Thank you!
Show threadLucKey ProductionsDec 10

@davidrevoy Try to see it as a compliment instead. People think it might be AI because it looks better than what most are capable of.

"That result is so good you must have cheated."

You know those old paintings that almost look like a photograph? That is amazing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hans_Holbein_the_Younger_-_Charles_de_Solier,_Sieur_de_Morette_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg

Show thread🇨🇳🇵🇸🇱🇧🇻🇪🇰🇪🇳🇨🇬🇱🇧🇷(🧆🏳️)Popolon🐷ᠫᠣᠫᠣᠯᠣᠨ🐎抱抱龙🐉بوبولون🤖🦧Dec 10
I feel like we didn't have photography of the same quality than this painting before digital photography. Painter didn't search for realism all the time.
  • 40,000~30,000 year BC very realistic cave painting
  • 20,000~10,000 year BC more simplified stylized cave painting
  • Ancient Pharaoh Egypt, very stylised drawing
  • around First~5th AD, Fayum portraits very realistic (caustic paintings on coffins in Egypt)
  • Middle age, all around the World very stylized painting
  • Renaissance (as this painting), come back to very realistic painting.
  • Some painter started to go back to faster painting, more rough, (as Rembrandt, very realistic on light and colors, but some rough brush strokes).
  • 19th century, photography, some romantic painters worked on photography and with advanced technics, worked on very realistic paintings.
  • End of 19th to 20th century, some artistic movements like Impressionism, fauvisme, want to go away from reality, paint something else than photography
  • Cubisme, with Picasso and some other are inspirited by traditional religious masks from West Africa, go more far away.
Painting, is generally not about realism, but about representation, with more or less realism, more or less personal style, following more or less time and schools/movement style of their time or from elsewhere in time and space. The main goal is to transmit feeling, emotions, ideas, with its own tools and style.

That's not the case in the particular case of portrait painting, like here, for people of power, (here, French soldier and diplomat as well as a long-serving gentilhomme de la chambre to Francis I, king of France, that had Da Vinci among his royal painters) or a rich people that can feed a painter by a command.

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Show threadToon Link Dec 10

@davidrevoy It's so frustrating. I've been seeing a lot of AI accusations in regards to a local disaster, too.

I saw someone say that, on the one side, we have Boomers thinking that AI is real. And on the other side, we have Gen Z thinking that everything is AI. It sure does feel like it.

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You are wrong, AI created everything in World, and since 2 or 3 years, humans started to copy them ^^. people an unable to create by themselves, as in school, you know, students can't answer teachers without AI help.

I feel like for more and more people reality is like this, hope I'm wrong.

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Show threadAydanDec 11

@davidrevoy @peertube Also, I think another (more flattering) reason is your expressive use of shadows and highlights, the majority of artists seem to work with either a more muted or more cartoony colour palette. And image generating AIs, for various reasons, tend to have very bright highlights and dark shadows.

I (and many, many other people) love your style though! Also your commitment to open-ness 

Show threadDavid RevoyDec 11
@cxxvii @peertube Thank you 
Show threadprokyonidDec 11
@davidrevoy I saw the version 8 art and had this unshakable feeling I'd seen something just like it before... then I saw your WIP post with the version 5 badge. Haha, nothing wrong with upcycling good art!
Show threadDavid RevoyDec 11
@prokyonid True, to be fair, I couldn't help the Framasoft team this autumn/winter because I'm focusing on my weekly comics, so they gently asked me if I could do modification of already made artworks to get materials for release, and changing a 5 into a 8 was the least I could do. 😊
Show threadLukefromDCDec 16
@davidrevoy @blueluma @peertube I've seen lots of AI images that could also have been made in GIMP or Blender
Show threadMr. ESE💧🕹️Dec 18
@davidrevoy
That's OK. I trust your work to be authentic.
Show threadTufty Indigo 🪗Feb 26

@davidrevoy Has big industry really been brainwashing the audience? I don't see companies like Disney or companies like Google telling people to harrass artists for using or not using AI models.

But I have seen artists spending the last couple of years telling people that whether you used AI or not is the most important thing in art, when most people simply can't tell the difference.

It's really sad that you're being harrassed this way for making great artwork with a process you're passionate about. You can only fight it if you put the blame in the right place. It's not the big industry harrassing you, it's the anti-AI movement.

Show threadDavid RevoyFeb 26

@tuftyindigo About brainwashing, what are you doing of the omnipresent ads? Sponsoring/Lobbying the tech industry and politics? Tweaking the algorithms to promote AI contents?
And about harassement: training on all the art online without artist's consent is ok for you? Making mega profits out of it, provoking shortage in hardware, pooping the web with slop? Increasing scams? Fake news?

Sure, pure Anti-AI activist can be a pain with their comments, but can't you see the asymmetry of power here?