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gegilWe live in a twenty fucking twenty six. Corporations faking everything with ai, but they still fake that they even use ai. Can the bubble just pop so hard, so that ai can become an economical black hole?
It already is a black hole, and they have sunk billions into it. The only reason any of the ‘AI’ businesses are still afloat is because all the numbers are made up. Everyone is paying everyone with billions they don’t really have. Absolute economics circle jerk in the hopes they can personally enrich themselves at the cost of the planet and everyone living on it.
The wamo workers when they get stuck look at all the cameras, then plot a safe route the car drives it’s self out of the confusion via. They never remotely drive them.
That’s like saying someone using the steering wheel isn’t driving because the tires actually turn rhe car.
This is different. It’s like playing a racing video game via trading cards. They’re giving the car directions just like a person might give a driver directions.
Nobody cares about your propaganda on this one. Nobody but nerds looking to screech cared if a human steps in to correct a situation. The world runs on shit like this.
People care if tech companies are hiding exploitation under the veneer of “advancement.”
No, they don’t. They care about cost and ease of use. They do not give two single fucks that there may be human intervention.
I didn’t say intervention. I said exploitation. And people care enough about it when it’s too hard to ignore.
I’m not sure that word means what you think it means.
I’m not sure which of the very simple words in the comment you’re replying to might be confusing to you.
I can see why it’s a spicy headline but we should appreciate a human override capability.
Hopefully waymo is forced into transparency about this. Transparency 100% fully clear on when the tech runs into a variety of situations including humans intervening.
That should be a mandatory for them to have the licensing necessary to operate autonomous vehicles anywhere in public spaces.
After all, they are learning on the public’s dime and at the public’s risk. We have to know if it’s truly better and what kind of new risks are created that weren’t otherwise anticipated.
titanicxThey are transparent about it. W use here has ridden in them and they have signs in the car that day this and they’re is a button to request it if the car is stuck someplace.
They are transparent about it.
If they were, this would not be news at all… Waymo has been around for YEARS. Instead they have kept details like these hidden and further obfuscate it by calling their tech “fully autonomous driving”… just like IPS with their “unlimited” plans that are not really unlimited.
I have never been in a Waymo vehicle
This entire page devoted to explain how the tech works, does not even hint at the existence of humans in the process:
And they don’t acknowledge it in their faq
If you have a human watching the driving closely enough to override it… why not just have them do the driving?
Too much lag, on top of human reaction time. They’re just stepping in when the car is stopped, telling it where to go, and dropping out again. They’re not doing actual direct control.
Ikr they have offices in phoenix and detroit where they did the same thing
The cloud is just somebody else’s pc
Guys in the Philippines aren’t live driving those cars live. Ping between SF and Manila is ~200ms or about a 5th of a second which on top of human reaction time would not be adiquate. This is about getting cars unstuck when they get stuck between an obstruction and violating traffic law.
You do realize that means they are live driving the car, maybe not 100% of the time, but waymo is having unlicensed drivers operating vehicles on US roads.
Additionally, this means they have people in another country taking over the cars when things failed and are potentially in a dangerous situation (where the ping might be a bigger issue).
Overall, we get big corporations able to skirt laws and pay people less money.
So if they remotely drive over your leg or otherwise run you over from the Philippines, they just lose their job? Sounds to me like total bullshit because if I drove my car from a computer in the backseat and I ran over someone, I would be in jail quicker than you can say AI. But how about everyone get to drive everyone else remotely!!! You drive my car from your car and I drive someone else’s and someone else drives yours! Let’s say we all run over someone… Do we go to jail?