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Fear as senator discovers staggering true amount Trump spent on arming ICE

https://lemmy.world/post/43584527

Fear as senator discovers staggering true amount Trump spent on arming ICE - Lemmy.World

They’ve amassed missiles armed with warheads. Let that sink in and realize what they really are, because it’s not a force for immigration enforcement, it’s an army simping for Trump. They will be weaponized at a much greater scale in the future certainly.

Feb 26 at 2:25amWeb
Show threadCaptDustFeb 26
No shit, ya don’t give em the largest budget of any enforcement agency and expect them not to spend it, right?
Show threadChrisGFeb 26

More accurately, its preparation for martial law in November. Any US citizen who thinks there will be free and fair elections is not paying attention. The regime are not leaving power willingly.

Time is running out for nation wide general strikes …

Show threadfizzleFeb 26
You don’t need missiles for martial law though.
Show threadgaloisghostFeb 26
Who needs martial law when you can bomb a voting centre and say it was overrun by Antifa
Show threadChrisGFeb 26

If any sane governor tries to push back against martial law, killing of dissenters and the total subversion of democracy, Trumps private army will be indeed well armed.

Too many people are just not getting it. The regime will not relinquish power.

Show threadteslekovaFeb 26
These days, you really do.
Show threadCarmakaziFeb 26

I thought the whole “missiles and warheads” thing was a debunked claim from a misunderstanding of less-lethal launchers and their ammunition. Rubber balls and teargas sorts of stuff.

What they’re buying seems to be the same shit that any podunk small-town PD has been buying for the last 15 years with their budget surplus. Which is a problem in and of itself, but it’s not an escalation beyond what is unfortunately the norm.

If they’re picking up heavy machine guns or Hellfire missiles, let us know.

Show threadpaper_moonFeb 26

Maybe I’m not reading your tone correctly, but this seems to be really, REALLY downplaying the threat here, especially with the last line of “if they’re buying this other shit, let us know” like what they currently have access to isn’t bad enough for the threat to US civilians?

I’m just wondering why you took this take. Again, unless i misread your tone here.

Show threadModern_medicine_isntFeb 26
So more than one thing can be evil at a time. Posting with a title that is clearly not even implied by the linked article is the kind of evil misinformation that got us in this mess. That is as close to a “tone” in what he wrote. It’s nowhere near extremly dismissive of anything. Doesn’t even mention anything about a threat.
Show threadpaper_moonFeb 26
🤷‍♂️ I guess you’re right, but the take away I got from their last sentence was ICE buying more weapons isn’t something they are concerned about or want to hear about, unless its machine guns and hellfire missiles. That’s the dismissive part to me. They’re staying it’s not news worthy unless it’s an escalation from the weapons regular police departments already have.
Show threadChronographsFeb 26
Yeah there’s no reference to that in the article.
Show threadLukas MurchFeb 26
Re-electing Trump is the worst financial decision this country has ever made.
Show threadtigeruppercutFeb 26

Re-electing Trump is the worst financial decision this country has ever made.

Show threadI_JediFeb 26
Trump knows he’s screwed if he loses the presidency. He knows he must hold onto it by any means.
Show threadmojofrododojoFeb 26

what in the fuck would an immigration agency need with missiles of any kind?

what in the actual fuck

Show threadswitcherooFeb 26
Because they’re not an immigration agency, they are a certain twatwaffle’s personal bully party. An inept, untrained, pathetic bunch of tiny dicks. The brown shirts, if you will.
Show threadmojofrododojoFeb 26
valid
Show threadganryuuFeb 26
The article makes no mention of any missile or warhead, only op speaks about that, be careful.
Show threadmojofrododojoFeb 26
yeah that’s a bit odd
Show threadCascadiaRoFeb 26

They’ve amassed missiles armed with warheads.

The article you linked makes no mention of this. What is the basis for this claim?

Show threadjust_another_personFeb 26

Claims were made months ago: motherjones.com/…/ice-spending-small-arms-weapons…

Corrections that info were made a bit after that which I was unaware of: wired.com/…/no-ice-probably-didnt-buy-guided-miss…

ICE’s spending on weaponry has soared more than 600 percent this year

The $71.5 million spent so far has paid mostly for guns, armor, and chemical munitions.

Mother Jones
Show threadrhombusFeb 26
Should probably edit the correction into your main post.
Show threadBristleconeFeb 26
Not one mention. Why you lying op? There’s plenty of bad shit in here without lying
Show threadjust_another_personFeb 26
What are you even talking about?
Show threadBristleconeFeb 26
Missiles dude
Show threadvorticFeb 26

Raw Story already stretches the truth for clicks. You’re here just making completely unsubstantiated claims. They are doing more than enough heinous shit without people mudding the waters with lies.

In response to the article itself, which references a 360% increase in weapons spending, ICE more than doubled the number of agents it employs. I wish they wouldn’t, but they seem to think that all of these untrained traitors need weapons. It makes sense that they would have a massive increase in weapons purcheses to outfit the new traitors and the future traitors they’re hoping to hire.

This is a non-story for the most part and you don’t need to add lies to it.

Show threadjust_another_personFeb 26

Your smart and pedantry is noted, but: 1) It was widely reported that I’ve was acquiring

warheads months ago. As others pointed out, that (might) not be exactly correct because of confusion about item numbers on invoices. I was unaware there had been updates there.

  • The article isn’t “making completely unsubstantiated claims” at all. They’re referencing Adam Schiff’s report on this activity.

  • It’s quite a LARGE story, actually. This is very clearly Trump’s Private army now, and he’s creating slush funds all over the place to keep them funded for a time in case official funding gets cut off. This new report details just how many weapons they have amassed, and it’s shocking. This is the largest deployed paramilitary force on US soil, they are controlled by Trump, and they have enough Guns and Ammo to take over a small country.

  • Just because YOU think it’s a “non-story” doesn’t mean anyway all. In fact, nobody asked you. I certainly don’t think we were waiting on baited breath for your personal opinion on it either. Your feelings on it are actually not needed.

    • Others may not have known, or probably should know this information, and that’s why it’s posted. Didn’t need your opinion or permission on that, buddy. ✌️

    Show threadvorticFeb 26
  • A quick search brings up nothing with ICE and “warheads” so it doesn’t appear to be “widely reported”.
  • I didn’t say that the article is making unsubstantiated claims. I said that you are. The article is substantiated, it just isn’t all that surprising that ICE is spending more on weaponry as they hire more agents.
  • The story says nothing about slush funds or anything beyond ICE spending more on weaponry.
  • You are posting in a public forum. That is explicitly asking for conversation and feedback, even if you didn’t directly ask me for mine. If you don’t want people to respond, don’t post.
    • Show threadjust_another_personFeb 26

    Does this article also mention Rachel Good or Alex Pretti? No? This article wasn’t about that.

    Because it’s assumed it was common knowledge. It’s not uncommon practice to refer to other referential pieces of information in a description.

    But anyway: motherjones.com/…/ice-spending-small-arms-weapons…

    And as someone else in the thread pointed out, there may have been some clarification on this after the reporting: wired.com/…/no-ice-probably-didnt-buy-guided-miss…

    Since your unfamiliar with the slush funds: vox.com/…/trumps-slush-fund-venezuela-oil-gaza-bo… cnn.com/…/trump-shutdown-tariffs-wic-farmers-anal… nytimes.com/…/trump-federal-money-slush-fund.html newrepublic.com/…/donald-trump-10-billion-dollars…

    ICE’s spending on weaponry has soared more than 600 percent this year

    The $71.5 million spent so far has paid mostly for guns, armor, and chemical munitions.

    Mother Jones
    Show threadDasusFeb 26

    I agree there’s no need to exaggerate.

    But it is worrying anyway. It’s very much play-by-play from Hitler’s playbook.

    Suppress opposition while getting a force which simps for you and challenges normal authorities.

    Show threadOctopusNemesesFeb 26
    They went from asscrack hanging out their dad jeans to looking ready to drop into the middle of a war zone.
    Show threadTryenjerFeb 26
    They will be the secret police, arresting and killing dissidents. In Portugal, during the Estado Novo regime, the secret police of Salazar’s regime, PIDE, also began with the merging of two immigration and border control agencies.
    Show threadSeptimaeusFeb 26
    Can we agree to stop sending our users to Rupert Murdoch?
    Show threadJustEnoughDucksFeb 26
    Where in the article does it say anything about missiles and warheads?
    Show threadRaiderkevFeb 26

    Idk about this article, but there was one a few months ago that said they bought a bunch of tomahawk missiles.

    yahoo.com/…/ice-spent-700-more-weapons-203923663.…

    ICE Spent 700% More on Weapons. What They Bought Will Terrify You.

    Donald Trump is arming his masked immigration agents with increasingly lethal weapons.

    Yahoo News
    Show threadD_CFeb 26

    From the outside looking in it looks like things have gone too far for the american population to do anything now. You are fucked, by the looks of it.

    If there were protests and general strikes done at the start of all this, well, terrorism then it wouldn’t have got to this point.
    “But how were we to know?” Well, apart from all the history of dictatorships, all the many signs it was going to be a dictatorship, the fat child raping cunt himself saying he was going to be a dictator from day one, and thousands and thousands of people saying it then, ha, ‘nothing’.

    There’ll try to rewrite it all that the orange kiddie fiddler was innocent but, fortunately, the rest of the world will know the truth. Basically, to his are fucked but history will not be kind to the Donvict Drumpf and some of his enablers.

    Show threadBarneyPiccoloFeb 26

    We have a massive election in. November, and that could potentially change everything. It makes no sense to blow up the country with senseless violence, NOW, when there is still a legal option that could be truly effective and change the course of the nation. But right now, violence would be useless, and counterproductive.

    MAGA definitely WILL fuck with this election, and if they refuse to accept the bloodbath that is almost certainly coming, and prevent those new Reps and Senators from taking their seats, THEN, when our LEGAL election choices have been rejected, violence would have a purpose, and would make sense.

    Right now, the mission is to stay under control, motivate voters, accumulate voting power, and RESIST EVERYTHING.

    Show threadD_CFeb 26

    I hope you are correct.

    However that’s only if the midterms happen, and there’s been talk of cancelling them.
    Plus it does look like the paedo and his cronies are trying to terrorise people to not go to the voting booths.
    Time will tell, but again I hope you are right.

    Show threadBarneyPiccoloFeb 26
    Elections are managed by the states whether MAGA likes it or not. To rig a presidential election, you only have to rig one race in seven swing states, but there are 50 states, and hundreds of Congressional Districts, so it is extraordinarily difficult to rig a Congressional or Senate election.
    Show threadfoggyFeb 26

    Fucking doomer bullshit propaganda.

    Fascists whole fucking game plan is to make you feel like the walls have closed in and you’re powerless to fight.

    That is literally all this thread is. You’re either brainwashed or a propaganda cell.

    Show threadjust_another_personFeb 26
    It’s a report from Schiff’s office. How is that “Doomer”?
    Show threadfoggyFeb 26
    Where does the report say they have acquired missiles and warheads?
    Show threadjust_another_personFeb 26
    Previously reported
    Show threadanarchiddyFeb 26
    *and corrected
    Show threadfoggyFeb 27

    You’re either controlled opposition or brainwashed by propaganda.

    There isn’t really a middle ground here.

    Show threadthaxFeb 26
    To be fair, the world has a bit of an extinction problem.
    Show threadScroll ResponsiblyFeb 26

    They’ve amassed missiles armed with warheads.

    Did you post the wrong article because I saw nothing to that effect in this one.

    Show threadjust_another_personFeb 26
    It was reported months ago, but as someone else pointed out, they’ve apparently address that as something else.
    Show threadTaldanFeb 26
    Perhaps you should edit your post to reflect that. Most people don’t look at the comments. Without a correction, you’ll be misinforming a lot of people
    Show threadanarchiddyFeb 26

    A mod should sticky a correction to this post if the OP doesnt make an edit themselves

    Reports that ICE purchased tomahawk missiles have since been corrected to have likely been a clerical error on an order form. OP themselves linked to reporting to this error in a comment below

    No, ICE (Probably) Didn’t Buy Guided Missile Warheads

    A federal contracting database lists an ICE payment for $61,218 with the payment code for “guided missile warheads and explosive components.” But it appears ICE simply entered the wrong code.

    WIRED
    Show threadAdolfSchmitlerFeb 26
    “Probabaly”
    Show threadanarchiddyFeb 26
    The line item in question is apparently only $61k lmao
    Show threadrazzazzikaFeb 27
    Isn’t this how ISIS started in Afghanistan?