Canada plans to assist Cuba as Washington squeezes the island

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/39088518

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Why smart? The goal is to get the oppressive communist regime of cuba to collapse, how is helping them going to get them further towards this goal?

Same with the UK not letting the US use bases against Iran, why are western governments pussy footing around with awful regimes that kill their own citizens?

western governments pussy footing around with awful regimes that kill their own citizens

FTFY. I really wouldn’t wanna live in Cuba but don’t tell me the genocidal west are the good guys.

Btw “pussy“ as an insult has become kind of weird to me, what makes you use that for something you perceive as “weak“? E.g. being bitch would serve a similar purpose but the meaning of the word seems to actually relate to what you’re trying to express no? Honestly curious.

western governments kill their own citizens

How many citizens has Canada killed recently? Is it upwards of 30,000?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_massacres

Can you point to me any recent Canadian government massacres?

Btw "pussy“ as an insult has become kind of weird to me

dictionary.cambridge.org/…/pussyfooting

Also what makes “dick” mean being rude or “dickhead” meaning acting stupid? who knows

2026 Iran massacres - Wikipedia

Israel killed st least 70k you always defended it
Wasn’t this supposed to be about Cuba? Why are you bringing Iran into it?

My comment was

Same with the UK not letting the US use bases against Iran, why are western governments pussy footing around with awful regimes that kill their own citizens?

but hey while we’re here:

Political scientists characterize the political system of Cuba as a single-party authoritarian regime where political opposition is not permitted.[12][13][14] There are elections, but they are not considered democratic.[15][16] According to the V-Dem Democracy Indices, Cuba is the second least democratic country in Latin America.[17] Censorship of information (including limits to internet access) is extensive,[18][19][20] and independent journalism is repressed in Cuba;[21] Reporters Without Borders has characterized Cuba as one of the worst countries in the world for press freedom.[22][23]

Friends of yours?

Yes. Cuba is lovely. But you’re moving goalposts again. When you decided to weirdly include Iran in all this, you included them due a massacre of 30k people. That’s a far cry from your complaints about Cuba. So why are you conflating them as though they were the same place?
They’re both autocratic. Iran actually has more democratic features.
Oh, hell, sorry, I had no idea that the “V-Dem Democracy Index” judged that Cuba was the most evil country on earth. Yes, in that case I hope the nazi pedophile government of the united states completely cuts off all fuel, food, and medical supplies, and drops bombs as necessary, until every last man woman and child on the island has been freed. Then they can build some beautiful casinos over the rubble, like they plan to do with Gaza.
Mossad rioters being called peaceful protestors is the warmongering narrative. Israel media proudly boasting about Mossad rioters, and Ted Cruz calling to arm the Mossad rioters more, exposes the pure demonism of the empire. This message was provided in the off chance that you are fooled by demonic agenda, instead of an active promoter of demonism.

Btw "pussy“ as an insult

That’s not what the term “pussyfoot” means.

Etymology

From pussy (“feline”) +‎ foot; because of the light and careful tread of cats.

Interesting, not a native speaker but I guess I could have looked this up myself.
In short: it is bad to help any regime do collective punishment on a group of people.
In the Iran case, there’s a concern about what happens after the US blows stuff up and then leaves.
The western governments, I will remind you, are run by nazi pedophiles

Canada is run by nazi pedophiles? Damn I had no idea

Australia isn’t, when you say western governments are you meaning to say the American government?

Don’t be naive
Can you cite the oppression? Because I have seen you get free medical school there and they have cancer treatments other countries don’t.
The guy support israel no wonder that he love collective punishement of cuban people

Can you cite the oppression?

Why do I have to do all the work

Because I have seen you get free medical school there and they have cancer treatments other countries don’t.

By other countries do you mean America?

We also have access to free education: tafeqld.edu.au/courses/…/fee-free#courses

We also have universal healthcare en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Australia

They also can’t afford it

while historical allies such as Russia and China no longer offer unlimited financial support due to the island’s crushing public debt (108.6% of GDP) and deficit (about 17% at its peak), as well as its record of defaults on loan repayments.

Can you cite the oppression?

I did here: aussie.zone/post/30024551/21613626

www.amnesty.org/en/location/…/report-cuba/

Sounds like Cubans have almost made up their mind and voted with their feet:

, one in four Cubans have left in four years

Most Cubans want change. But you cannot lead opposition inside Cuba because the regime jails any potential organiser

theguardian.com/…/cuba-regime-polycrisis-collapse…

Fee-Free TAFE

If you're eligible for Fee-Free TAFE funding, some or all of your course costs will be covered by the Australian and Queensland Governments. Because they’re footing the bill, you only have to pay what’s left, which could be nothing at all. Although you’re paying less, the total cost of the course is the same, and you still receive the same quality of training and education.

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Thanks for links, I asked because you came across as knowing more than I.

The Cubans I have met didn’t talk very negatively about their homeland, just that the US embargo’s cripple their country and so life is harder than what they see in rich countries, and so wanted more.

We have some subsidized enrollment in Canada too, but in a communist system its not about subsidizing a for profit system by application approval, its about providing it to all as a service.

As for cancer treaments mine was head and neck cancer (all free in Canada) but it was old medicine techniques of blast and (hopefully) recover. Cuba with non profit pharmaceutical had come up with a “cure” for it but not available in USA or Canada because of the stupid politics and restrictions.

I’m not purporting they are a utopia, but I think USA media paints a dictator regime propaganda, while doing the exact same thing themselves.

Political scientists characterize the political system of Cuba as a single-party authoritarian regime where political opposition is not permitted.[12][13][14] There are elections, but they are not considered democratic.[15][16] According to the V-Dem Democracy Indices, Cuba is the second least democratic country in Latin America.[17] Censorship of information (including limits to internet access) is extensive,[18][19][20] and independent journalism is repressed in Cuba;[21] Reporters Without Borders has characterized Cuba as one of the worst countries in the world for press freedom.[22][23]

If this is the comment you meant, then its not really a good one, you are describing the current US ADMIN.

If this is the comment you meant, then its not really a good one, you are describing the current US ADMIN.

If you think the US is anything like cuba you guys are far more naive than I thought

USA has election fraud, admin arresting/prosecuting political enemies, censoring media, arresting journalists. Its all the same, US is just in control of their own PR

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Press_Freedom_Index

no wonder you guys love these places so much, press are gagged and can’t say anything bad about the place

World Press Freedom Index - Wikipedia

Mostly my info came from people who lived there, and they weren’t overly critical. Just that Canada was a better life
But insulin is 80 CENTS! Who can afford that?
Canada bullshiting again. What cuba need is fuel.
This doesn’t say they aren’t sending fuel.
There is a fuel embargo. You really believe thst Canada would ignore it?

The US has an embargo, we don’t.

I would hope that we would continue to send fuel to them.

Trump threatened anybody who does it with tarrifs
I mean Canada already has tariffs and their Trade Secretary is not backing down, even adding tariffs to the free trade agreements…
I expected the downvotes . Lemmy communities about specific country are always over protective of their countries. They can’t accept a single criticism like cultists
The tariffs that were deamed invalid? Or the new tariffs that will also be deamed invalid?
You think the dictator in the making Trump will keep respecting the courts?
Has he ever? Not sure if he’s ever not failed to comply properly 😂
I want 0 trade with the Americans so that’s a good thing to me.
I mean, apparently they’re willing to go against the US on Cuba, per this article. It’s not specified which things Cuba needs they’ll be sending, but it’s something.
Like Canada claimed to oppose Iraq war while sharing intel with the Americans and providing naval and air support? Canada has always been a disgusting hypocritical country

There is a tariff threat to those who would help. It is disgusting in of itself, but everything Canada says/does is met with a tariff threat, and so we should call the bluff. Cuba is a much better place to visit than Florida, and Canadians are lucky to be one of the few who get to go there, and Cuba would be much better off if US lifted its oppression, but its important to not tolerate pure evil.

Pushing back against the US, or even contributing to its collapse, is the only path to respect for Canada. Doug Ford sucking every dick in Washington not only has it gotten him nothing, he had to apologize for daring to say that tariffs hurt everyone. While sound logic, the guys getting their dick sucked aren’t complaining, and don’t mind that he obeys orders to suck harder.

Good on you guys for having balls. Here in Estonia we can’t even move off fucking Microsoft Teams in government services because they’re all too busy sucking American cock (I mean the decisionmakers, not regular employees lol), I can’t imagine we’d ever do anything to upset Trump at this point.

Here in Estonia we can’t even move off fucking Microsoft Teams in government services because they’re all too busy sucking American cock

Canadian government uses Teams.

Anita Anand (@anitaoakvilleeast.bsky.social)

The humanitarian situation in Cuba is rapidly worsening. That is why, alongside my colleague the Secretary of State for International Development, Randeep Sarai, I announced $8 million in immediate humanitarian assistance to provide food security and nutrition assistance to those most in need.

Bluesky Social
There you go. As of OP being written that wasn’t public, though.
You really shouldn’t be getting downvoted on this. Sending $8 million dollars & no fuel is basically just a PR stunt for the politically shallow. It is bullshit.
I expected the downvotes . Lemmy communities about specific country are always over protective of their countries. They can’t accept a single criticism like cultists. They looks like fools to me

They should get downvoted for ignorance. You cannot run a grid on solar and a few batteries.

Also, Cuba already has large solar farms. 92 of them near completion.

They need a solution today, not in a few years. Today. The solution today is fuel, either via the blockade being ended or fuel aid being delivered. Canada is neither delivering fuel aid nor even calling out the blockade.

If the US succeeds in overthrowing their government, there’s a pretty good chance the electrification effort underway will be going in the bin.

No. What they need is solar panels and factories for manufacturing batteries, so they never need fuel.
I have to wonder, last time I checked Canada is a sovereign country, why can trump dictate who we can help and who we can not. My opinion: we should help the Cuban People as much as we can and give the Trumpsters the middle finger salute.
I agree but when the bully that gets away with everything makes a demand they should not be appeased. Personally I’d never want to do what they asked even just out of spite, but if taking a country into consideration then I see why concessions are made. It can only last so long though.

I mean, sanctions and blockaids are an important method of diplomacy (as an alternative to war). It worked for ending South African Apartheid.

But the UN had overwhelmingly voted to end the blockaid on Cuba.

In conclusion: sovereignty doesn’t make you higher than the UN. But it does make you higher than one country’s deranged fascist leader.

I always find it frustrating when people say “Washington is doing x” in reference to Washington DC (US capital) and not in reference to Washington (the state). I personally know people who were confused by this and didn’t know that Washington state existed.

If possible, please say the full name of Washington DC, or even just DC.

People from the US who didn’t know Washington state existed, or elsewhere? It only actually matters if Washington state suddenly goes off the rails, which would be weird. We say “Ottawa” in Canada to refer to the federal government and we all understand what that means because of very obvious context clues.

In general I don’t disagree that being more accurate is a good thing, and “DC” is easier to write, too, but if people need the clarity here then they’re dumb as hell.

Numerous people from the US. It’s not a matter of stupidity, but of education.
There’s bad education and then there’s that. Big yikes.
LOL, now I’m tempted to be a troll when someone bitches about Ottawa setting payments, and state, “I did not know that municipality had the power to determine how much a province receives.” or “Mark Sutcliffe must really hate Alberta.”
Oh I get it, it’s a bit like how it’s super annoying that America is used to refer to the US and American is commonly used to mean Estadounidense. Yea that’s frustrating.
Please send them solar panels, wind turbines, and batteries. Not fossil fuels!