"Death to Israel? So you want to kill all Jews?"

https://lemmy.ml/post/43644300

I agree. But please add other imperial countries to your flag list, like for example russian flag and other well known capitalist state from Asia.

And where is the most imperialistic country in Europe, Russia ruled by right wing authoritarian regime.

Country well known for constant invigilation, killing opposition, journalists, activists, LGBT people and so on. Country that wants to rebuild old imperium, attacked Ukraine and want to demilitarize eaastern Europe and so on.

most imperialistic country in Europe, Russia

France alone disproves this

In a last year, how many wars was started by France? How many times France was aggressive towards neighbours? How many times wanted other independent country to cut ties to its allies and get rid of military?

But there’s Africa and other parts of the world. Yes. And Russian forces are also there

www.dw.com/en/…/a-70599853

We know that usa is the biggest imperialist, but it’s not the only one.

How the Russian Wagner Group is entrenching itself in Africa

The Wagner Group, a Russian paramilitary, has gained a foothold in many sectors across Africa, helping the continent strengthen ties with Russia. Now, it's also expanding its range of services.

Deutsche Welle

Imperialism is not just through war, you know that, right? France subjugates many African nations through the CFA franc, or coups, or extraction of their materials like Uranium.

How many times wanted other independent country to cut ties to its allies and get rid of military?

France is infamous for backing coups against African nations that go against their wishes.

But there’s Africa and other parts of the world. Yes. And Russian forces are also there

Ok? And? That doesn’t change the fact that France is also incredibly imperialist.

So France bad because it’s exploiting Africa, but when ruSSia is doing the same thing and way worst things in Europe “that’s doesn’t change the fact…”?

Noone is saying that France is good or not exploiting Africa, but one of us is pretending that Russia is not doing worst things.

OK. I’ve read the article you linked. Just from it alone.

In return for their security services, companies from the wider Wagner network are exploiting a gold mine in the CAR and cutting valuable tropical timber, among other things. Others brew beer, sell vodka in Bangui or trade sugar.

How on earth are you actually trying to equate this to French neocolonialism, lol. France literally controls the currencies of FOURTEEN AFRICAN NATIONS. The french privately control tons of mines across west africa, gold and uranium. jacobin.com/…/france-africa-empire-neocolonialism… as an example.

This isn’t even mentioning the history of France in Africa, which is incredibly relevant to analyzing its modern relations with African countries. I’m not denying Russia does bad things. I’m saying you’re full of shit by saying it’s the most imperialist country in Europe.

How France Has Continued Exploiting Its Former African Colonies

The French army’s forced exit from Niger has been wistfully termed the end of an era of great-power status. We should remember what this really meant: a zombie empire that crushed democracy in order to protect French elites’ power, both in Africa and at home.

So you want more?

africanclimatewire.org/…/russia-offers-african-co…

lansinginstitute.org/…/russias-africa-corps-wagne…

How on earth are you actually trying to equate this to French neocolonialism,

I dont understand why on one hand you’re so aware about France neocolonialism, and not aware about Russian neocolonialism in Africa?

Also add to the lista Russian neocolonialism in Europe, sending Russian separatists in to many countries, add what Russia did in Chechnya, and so on.

m saying you’re full of shit

Sounds funny from someone who don’t know anything about Russian exploitation of African nations, genocides in Ukraine, and destruction of Chechnya and Belarusian culture and language. But I’m the one full of shit :)

Russia Offers African Countries Regime Survival Package in Exchange for Natural Resources - African Climate Wire

Russia is reportedly offering African countries a “regime survival package” in exchange for access to natural resources such as timber, gold, uranium and lithium. This follows a tour by Russian deputy Defence Minister Yunus-Bek Yevkurov of Libya, Burkina Faso, the Central African Republic, Mali and Niger in 2024. Under this agreement, Russia will gain access […]

African Climate Wire

Do you bite, the hand that feeds you? Do you stay , down on your knees?

Of course these fuckers won’t unilaterally speak out against authoritarians.

This feels like whataboutism, especially if the poster is American. I’m Canadian and I mainly criticize Canada/US/Israel, because that’s the empire I’m a citizen of.

So commenting about imperialist state under anti imperialistic meme is whataboutism?

And I’m living in Europe, and I criticize imperialism that doesn’t affect me that much like usa, Israel, but also Russian imperialism and attack on independent country Ukraine, and that is showing Europe and Poland as it’s enemy. I’m also criticizing Chinese exploitation of Africa, so the thing that gives us very cheap goods.

But what this have to do with the topic, I don’t know.

“So commenting about imperialist state under anti imperialistic meme is whataboutism?”

Sometimes. Commenting about any topic can be whataboutism if it fits the definition.

If I was saying “death to the IDF” and the comment was “what about Russian war crimes???”, ya, that would be whataboutism.

How in a hell you get the idea, that meme about white imperialism is about one specific country, like USA, not other imperialistic states like Russia or Israel? You know, that russia and Israel are also mostly white?

that meme about white imperialism is about one specific country

I’m talking about the post, which is primarily about Israel and it’s allies. Your comment was wholly unproductive

So let’s pretend, that only western imperialism is the problem, good :D
Oh so let’s pretend only eastern imperialism is bad, got you!! (Now I’m doing the whataboutism)

Ngl “whataboutism” has always appeared to be a pseudo intellectual criticism.

It’s consistent to expect a unilateral criticism, and sometimes, people don’t do that because they actually are hypocrites.

God you can just read what a word means before talking about it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Whataboutism - Wikipedia

I know what it means, thanks. I stand by what I said.