ProdigalFrogFeb 23

Movim - A GPL, federated E2EE Text Chat & Video Call platform (w/ screenshare!) using XMPP just launched a new funding campaign to accelerate development of Discord-like features!

https://slrpnk.net/post/34490207

Movim - A GPL, federated and encrypted Text Chat & Video Call platform (w/ screenshare!) using XMPP just launched a new funding campaign to accelerate development of Discord-like features! - SLRPNK

Direct link to the funding campaign [https://movim.eu/#Fund], which is a modest sum to help accelerate the development [https://piaille.fr/@movim/116111083882867207] of Discord-like features, such as servers with rooms/spaces, as well as drop-in voice channels. It’s quite an impressive little app capable of: * Excellent text chats with file upload support, including solid optional encryption (OMEMO, based on Signal’s encryption but modified to be compatible with federation) * Group voice/video calls with screensharing (just implemented, must use a chromium based browser to screenshare an app’s audio at the moment) * A neat integrated blogging feature for communities & individuals * a fun built-in paint program to easily annotate documents or draw stuff into the chat * Full working and proven federation thanks to the XMPP back-end, which allows it to scale up reliably and easily self-host (XMPP is very lightweight). * Uses the AGPL license, ensuring that corpos won’t be able to take it over. It’ll be community-owned forever. In message-mode, it looks fairly similar to Discord: [https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/3bcc6682-3016-46a8-9866-d9427f016666.png] The dev also posted a preview of what the new spaces feature looks like in the development branch: [https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/f336d28e-495e-4b70-8d8a-aa9b3282c131.png] Unlike Signal, Movim doesn’t require a phone number email to create an account. And since it runs right in the browser, it’s extremely quick to sign up and give it a test [https://join.movim.eu/register] to see if it can meet your needs. To stay updated on its progress, the [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] [https://slrpnk.net/c/xmpp] community pretty reliably posts news about it.

Show threadillusionistFeb 23

Sounds cool but I’m also tired with yet another messenger. There are already a brazilian other messengers.

I wouldn’t say that no phone number is an advantage, matrix does not use one and it’s a pain to discover people (compared to just using the number)

Show threadProdigalFrogFeb 23

There are already a brazilian other messengers.

That’s true, and it’s a bit of a mess, but if we’re looking for a more permanent home that we won’t need to escape from in a few years, XMPP is pretty much the best long-term option.

I wouldn’t say that no phone number is an advantage, matrix does not use one and it’s a pain to discover people (compared to just using the number)

Discord did not require a phone number, but finding communities was quite easy. Curious how you would use phone numbers to discover new people or communities, unless you mean just finding your own contacts that also joined the service? The use of phone numbers also immediately makes it impossible to be anonymous from the hosting service itself.

Show threadillusionistFeb 23

I mean discovering my own contacts, friends. Communities is easier, you’re right

Why did discord become so big? Gamers and crypto guys, right? Any other group? Why did discord replace teamspeak? Because it looked cooler, had a fresh approach.

Show threadProdigalFrogFeb 23

Discord replaced everything else because it had far more features than Teamspeak. Teamspeak can only do voice chats amongst small groups of people in invite-only rooms.

Discord could do public facing discoverable communities with drop-in voice calls, group video calls, group screensharing to stream movies or gameplay to your friends or an entire community of hundreds, markdown enabled text chats. And each of those communities could have categorized collections of chat & drop-in voice rooms with granular permissions for different users, and more recently it added built-in forums as well.

It’s truly a kitchen-sink approach, but the end result was the ability to create both small and large communities, all of which only needed a single account, and all of it streamlined so non-techies could easily use it.

Show threadVenia SilenteFeb 23

It’s truly a kitchen-sink approach, but the end result was the ability to create both small and large communities, all of which only needed a single account, and all of it streamlined so non-techies could easily use it.

And it also made it easier to have a captive audience, because when you have a kitchen sink app, any potential competitor has to build an entire house to support their in-house solution. So it makes harder to escape corporate jails, and honestly it’s not something that we should be promoting.

Show threadrefaloFeb 24
So you’re saying people shouldn’t want nice features?
Show threadVenia Silente
Not really, more like they shouldn’t want them all in the same place / under the same provider. Don’t put all the eggs in the same basket in this digital day and age and all that.
Feb 24 at 1:37pmWeb