Tim RileyFeb 21

🙋 Minitest users, I need your feedback on Hanami’s upcoming Minitest support! https://discourse.hanamirb.org/t/feedback-on-hanami-minitest/1415

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Feedback on Hanami Minitest

Hola, Hanamigos! 👋 In May we’ll be releasing the first version of Hanami Minitest for Hanami v2. I’ve been working on this PR to put it together: Get started by timriley · Pull Request #3 · hanami/hanami-minitest · GitHub I’m not a regular Minitest user myself, so I need your help to get this right. I’ve put together an example app that uses the files that will be generated by Hanami Minitest: GitHub - timriley/minitest_example: Example Hanami app using Minitest Setup and support...

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Show threadJames Feb 21
@timriley If you need any help integrating with Mocha, let me know - I’d be happy to help
Show threadTim RileyFeb 21
@floehopper Thank you! 😊 Is Mocha a pretty standard part of a Minitest user's toolkit? Maybe we should include it out of the box?
Show threadJames Feb 21
@timriley I’m not sure that’s true - Minitest used to come with a simple mock implementation although it looks like it’s been split out in into minitest-mock now.
Show threadeightbitraptorFeb 21
@floehopper @timriley Mocha has a much nicer API in my experience. Minitest mock had always felt like a mocking framework designed to discourage mocking. Which, to be fair, might be true.
Show threadzenspiderFeb 23
@timriley @floehopper @eightbitraptor it was. Not mocking is better than mocking for 80-90% of all tests.
Show threadJames Feb 23

@zenspider @timriley @eightbitraptor

> It was

Interesting!

> Not mocking is better than mocking for 80-90% of all tests.

I'm not going to bite! 😃

Show threadeightbitraptorFeb 23
@floehopper @zenspider @timriley "we designed this screwdriver to be hard to use because not using screws is better than using screws 80-90% of the time"
Show threadzenspiderFeb 23
@eightbitraptor @floehopper @timriley "man... this screwing car parts together is really painful! we should make a better screwdriver!"
Show threadeightbitraptorFeb 23
@zenspider @floehopper @timriley your reply has highlighted the main point I was stealth making tho - this kind of absolutist nonsense has no place in these kind of discussions because they remove all the context.
Show threadzenspiderFeb 23
@eightbitraptor @floehopper @timriley let me know when you discover the absolutism
Show threadeightbitraptorFeb 23

@zenspider @floehopper @timriley

> Not mocking is better than mocking for 80-90% of all tests.

Found it!

Show threadzenspiderFeb 23

@eightbitraptor @floehopper @timriley Absolutist: a person who holds absolute principles in [...] matters
Absolute: not qualified or diminished in any way; total

try again

Show threadeightbitraptorFeb 23
@zenspider @floehopper @timriley I'm not going to sit here and argue with you about word definitions, it's dull. You made a blanket statement that a whole class of programming techniques is inferior to another in 80-90% of cases, without qualifiers or context. I think you're wrong and that making statements without context or qualifiers is a form of bad faith argument.
Show threadzenspiderFeb 23
@eightbitraptor @floehopper @timriley 🫡 Cool story. I've given plenty of context and qualifications. I don't feel like repeating myself esp on such a shitty medium.
Show threadeightbitraptor
@zenspider @floehopper @timriley 😘
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Show threadzenspiderFeb 23
@eightbitraptor @floehopper @timriley ✌🏻☮️