t s r o n oRE: https://mastodon.online/@9to5Mac/116122133492104605
interesting thought/discussion question: do you think Apple will make it to 100?
if so, what will it look like?
if not, what would change to kill it?
oscillik@tsrono I misread this as David Plogue and thought he's got his fingers in a lot of pies!
@oscillik lol had to look him up, i think i've heard of Plogue but didn't know him by name.
@tsrono Plogue make the best DX7 plug-in, and arguably the best MegaDrive/Genesis & C64 plug-ins too. I'm eagerly awaiting a rumoured Amiga Paula sampler from them.
@oscillik oh nice, i need to remember this for if i eventually go more in the box for production stuff. probably heard about their DX7 piece before, never tried any tho.
lots of love online for the old Amiga stuff for sure, if they can emulate some good gritty downgrading i imagine that would go very well for a certain crowd.
i think my MegaFM might be one of the very few pieces of hw FM kit that may not be digitally reproducible (but maybe anything is, especially digital chips?)
ecz
not the chatter i was expecting but i'm always glad to learn about cool sound makers
trash panda qc@oscillik @eczem @trashpandaqc ooooh that i've heard of! didn't realize it w/ just Plogue mentioned. must be pretty solid if you've been using it for so long
@tsrono @oscillik @eczem it's got its pros and cons! part of the reason is just learning time for any of the alternatives. it's easy to learn, and easy to group subpatches together and make linked presets for performance, that's a big thing for me. but the GUI options are pretty bad compared to any of the alternatives, and getting worse with updates. I might eventually learn PD for longevity's sake.
@trashpandaqc oh, has it been abandoned at this point? i think Reaktor's officially dead but folks tend to stick with what they know & obviously can do with using older tools for plenty of time, if motivated. if i'd fallen a little more in love with AudioMulch i might've went that route myself, but i definitely got on well with Ableton once i got over that initial learning curve for it. (Ableton 7, i think?)
@tsrono @oscillik @eczem not abandoned, but the latest update "improved" the GUI with this non-skeuomorphic scheme that hides some of the info unless you mouseover, I hate it (comparison below). so far the old one is still usable...
Bidule doesn't seem to have many users tho, the devs are pretty clear it's a side project / never officially been "1.0." so idk, at this point I feel like PD will always be maintained & might eventually be necessary if MacOS or Plogue themselves break more stuff
@trashpandaqc hmm yeah i can't say i like the look of either at first glance but that sort of thing is down to ease of use far more than it is to which just 'looks' better out of context.
but if it's been around for ~10 years & it's still just sorta 'side project' status, that's not a great sign.such is the way when it comes to not 'pro-level' software tho, to be expected almost (tho like you mention, there's other options at the least)
David Viens
steeb@tsrono i think they have a roadmap for many more ports and format changes to make for connecting peripherals so.. at least another 50 years… so many ports to delete.