Track_Shovel*puts on witch hat* SILENCE, INCEL! *FWOOOM!*
decapitaeIf I don’t hear about women being arrested because some creep got immolated for catcalling them, I am going to be disappointed.
Over catcalling? That seems somewhat insane though no?
Unwanted touching or stalking or threatening and such i could see of course, but reciprocating men trying to get a womans attention (in a crappy and rude fashion) with literally death and/or permanent disfigurement and pain is a little drastic.
We rightly abhor the insane acid attacks committed on women over some minor transgression out of some fucked sense of honor sometimes committed in certain countries, how is this a viable Position to hold just because the genders are reversed?
stenAandenWell, that’s the issue I find with this device, the same as guns or general physical force used against harasment and violence against women: it just leads to the woman getting arrested because the issue in the first place is that law enforcement and courts DO NOT take harasment and violence against women seriously
Bingo. This isn’t a solution to the problem, it’s a response. The actual problem isn’t being addressed in the slightest. People defending themselves will continue to get blamed for standing their ground. The only solace to be had from that is that women being arrested for “assault” will serve as external confirmation that these things are being used and that they work.
tomiantWell… let’s try it out for a little and see what happens.
Typically without solid training what happens is the weapon gets turned on the wrong person.
But, for the sake of a good time we can imagine some asshole pervs getting lit up like a cigar. Heh heh. Awesome.
Honestly, I hope it is more deterrent than anything else
Idk, having something that could melt metal from a safe distance as a deterrent seems a bit overkill. But don’t take my word for it, I might be overreacting.
It’s just running on butane - it won’t have enough heat mass to melt metal (and produce any notable flames). Probably it won’t do much more to a person than startle the hell out of them and maybe ignite their hair.
3300°C seems a bit much for butane but it could be farenheit which I would assume is still quite hot.
Shhh, let them have fun.
Hmm, that sounds like something a velociraptor would say.
That’s hate speech.
Great, create more fear in society and pit people against each other and give them weapons, too. Winning concept.
Abusers should be afraid. 🤷♂️
The problem is that who an “abuser” is is extremely subjective. In this case it’s evil men. What if people buy these because they’re scared of evil immigrants? The argument is the exact same.
You’re real scared about getting set on fire, huh?
You understand that nobody is handing out flame throwers, right? You know that this is a meme, right? You can’t really be that fucking stupid, right?
I see, it’s all just a joke and you’re frothing at the mouth like a rabid dog because it isn’t serious. Right?
Yeah, that’s what’s going on, sure. Keep going, I love you chuds. Point out more about how angry I’m getting about the meme post.
I can literally feel you getting worked up through the screen, anything to protect your fragile ego. The thing about people like you is, you could just as easily be a right wing yokel in Tennessee, you act the same, and think the same, it’s just the object of your hatred that changes.
HA! Still caught up on this, eh? You guys are the best, I love you, never change.
I wish my landlord had the same rent-free policy that you do.
All right then. I think you are perfectly aware of your own stupidity at this point. See ya.
What’s wrong? Rape plans derailed?
Pit people against whom? Their active attacker? Who are you worried about making afraid?
wonderingwandererBy that logic, shouldn’t everyone carry a gun too? If it’s theoretically only going to be used against an active attacker, what’s the big deal?
(Note: this isn’t an argument for carrying guns)
A lot of people carry guns specifically for that reason. I’m not saying it’s a perfect solution, but it speaks of a bigger issue that is being ignored. If people are forced to look out for themselves then the options become very limited and outside of the possibility of anything approaching ideal. I’m not choosing to worry about the attackers getting set on fire in this situation, my concerns and those of the people who have a need for things like this have already been outright ignored entirely. People don’t have a better option, it was taken from them already.
And has easy access to guns never caused problems? Possibly more problems than they’ve solved?
My problem isn’t with people deterring potential attackers or fighting off actual attackers. My concern is with the potential for misuse, and the fact that labeling this as some innocent means of self-defense is covering up the fact that it wouldn’t be limited to being used exclusively by victims. That’s just marketing. Any psycho could buy one of these.
Yup. That’s the available option.
Maybe we should try to address the issues with the longstanding preservation of rape culture. When that never happens, though, this is what we are left with. You’re mad at the pen, you should be mad at the person who threw the pen.
You are mad at men, just like racists are mad at immigrants. There is literally no difference in your worldviews, only the targets.
I’m mad at systemic patriarchy, you’re the one playing the victim and taking that personally. Curious.
You’re mad at a bogeyman, and I don’t trust you with weapons, because then I will have to get one to protect myself from psychos like you.
Nobody is getting flame throwers, you fucking moron.
Are you a maga troll? Because this is how they usually argue. None of your arguments make sense when you say this, this is literally the whole fucking debate, about psychopaths like yourself ordering pocket flamethrowers to use against anyone you dislike, which I’m going to confidently guess is everybody but yourself.
Yup, I’m real concerned about the bogeyman. You’re right and you should feel super rational and confident in knowing I’m the obvious victim of false insecurities. You’re doing great, have fun with your mission of fighting against rampant lighter assaults, I’m done taking the piss out of you dolts.
What attacker? There is no attacker, it’s all a hypothetical situation meant to rile up people like you.
Rape is a made up hypothetical situation?
Oh, you’re right. You’re so right. I’m not getting raped, so it doesn’t exist. What a relief.
Also, nobody is getting flame throwers, jackass. Congrats on outing yourself as a media illiterate rape advocate because of a meme. Cheers.
Yep, people who don’t agree with you are rapists. That’s a sign of intellectual maturity right there. QED, psycho.
Yeah, that’s exactly what’s going on here. Right again. You’re the best kind of guy.
Make sure to downvote this one, too.
bampopIt’s just a weapon. It can be used by anybody, against anybody, for any reason. Being willing to use a weapon against other people doesn’t mean you are justified in doing so. This particular weapon is probably most useful for disfiguring people. There’s a fair chance that some over-entitled ex-boyfriends and stalkers might find a use for it.
Do you want to get embarrassed over getting defensive about a dark joke shitpost in a meme sub about women defending themselves against the onslaught of rape the world throws at them and how the systems in power refuse to give a shit about to the point of them requiring lethal disfiguring weapons (as a joke, as this is just a stupid temu lighter intended to be used simply as a lighter for people stupid enough to buy one, if that wasn’t fucking obvious.) to stop it from happening to them or do you maybe just want to fuck off about it? I’ve still got more in the tank, but I’d rather do other things than point out how fucking stupid it is to take shit like this seriously to the point of arguing against it as a safety issue. I just got off of a rare slow shift at work and need to play with my cat.
“Solar panels cause climate change” type argument.
BS