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BeepAcross the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras. Anger over ICE connections and privacy violations is fueling the sabotage.
DarkCloudSimilar to what happened in Hong Kong a few years back when the CCP introduced metal telephone poles chock full of monitoring equipment and cameras.
Offtopic, but it’s sad how all discussion about Hong Kong just slipped away into the void. I think this is the first time I’ve seen it mentioned in almost a year.
One of my friends just didn’t even remember it happening, he thought I was making it up at first.
It’s sad, but I don’t think there’s much else that can be done. I guess it’s all running how the CCP wants it now? (Or are there still protests we just don’t hear about?)
Beijing inserted candidates into the local elections, won power and passed sweeping National Security laws which allowed for mass arrests and the breaking up of pro-democracy institutions. The key people in the movement were jailed. New laws, mass arrests and detainment effectively ended protests.
TL;DR: it was crushed.
lechekaflanHong Kong’s now just another Mainlander city… with British characteristics.
andybytes“Sabotage”
Yeah, it’s a weird way of spelling “liberation”.
How would you take such a camera down without being spotted and tracked? Do they not look in all directions?
Not asking for all the technical details on how to take one down, just curious how so many can be taken down with so few arrests after. I guess it’s a matter of good disguises?
Well, that might change after this though.
Even if they do, don’t be a dumbass and have your phone on you and be completely covered and approach the device via analogue method (e.g. walking, bicycle without a serial, etc).
blitzenAs an aside, I’ve been toying with the following idea:
I like to refurbish bicycles for my own use. The idea I’ve had is to buy cheap Facebook marketplace / Craigslist bikes, disassemble, grind off the serial, and paint in a uniform and non identifiable (or at least less so) and reassemble, replacing wear parts. Put them into the community to use however they see fit, cheap enough to ditch without caring.
The idea of a bunch of surveillance cameras watching other surveillance cameras only to prevent vandalism of the surveillance cameras…
it’s sorta like llm agents in a social network talking amongst themselves, innit?
Who watches the watcher’s watcher?
Programmer BelchBalaclava and crowbar combo?
Wear appropriate clothing/face covering. Bring paint. Paint lenses. Then dismantle camera.
Ulrichright, but you do have to approach it. I think the question is more “how are people not being tracked from blocks away”
Dress like an ice agent (but only for a brief moment please)
You mean wear something generic, unidentifiable and add some body armor?
Yeah but skip the axe body spray so people know you aren’t really an ice agent.
Yep, that’s the direction I was thinking. The whole point of these cameras is to track people, including you, meaning that they can track everyone in the area before and after a camera is destroyed. It seems to me that the logical time to destroy a camera is when few other people are arround to stop/witness someone destroying a camera, but that also means there are few people to track and therefore it’s easier to single out whoever did it.
Leave your phone at home.
Don’t drive your own car there, and don’t get an uber.
Ride a scooter, bicycle, or walk.
Wear a dust mask, headphones (to prevent ear pattern recognition) and safety glasses.
Wear a high vis vest while working on the camera. The retro reflective strips show up as dazzling white on infrared cameras, washing out the image. It also helps make any witness assume you’re a legitimate worker
Wear dark clothing with no logos over the top of something dorky, like a white Ralph Lauren shirt and golf shorts. Ditch the dark clothing if you even sense you might be stopped on the way home.
Put duct tape on the soles of your shoes to make the shoe prints indistinct.
Wear gloves, rigger gloves are fine, latex if you have nothing else.
Work quickly, never run (unless your under disguise is a jogging outfit).
if you see a cop, security, or any person that suspects you, believe in your heart and soul that you haven’t committed a crime. Find a way to delete the act from your memory, become an innocent person in your own mind.
Emotional escalation to cop should be indifference, confusion, irritation, indignant, suspicion, and when detained or arrested, lawful but otherwise silent cooperation. That’s how innocent people behave when suspected or accused of a crime. Once detained, say nothing except your name, age, DOB, address, license number ect and “I don’t know, I need to speak to a lawyer.” Even though they will ask you a thousand questions to try to get you to implicate yourself. There is nothing you can say that will talk you out of cuffs.
Specifically say you are invoking your right to silence and specifically say you are invoking your right to council.
If they continue to pester you after this, it’s a violation of your rights and a lawyer will have more ammunition to defend you.
If they come back hours later and try talking to you again, you invoke them again. After a significant period of time (whatever the cop decides) they can try again to “see if you’ve changed your mind.”
But just staying silent is not the same in the courts as invoking your right to remain silent.
People tend to want to talk and fill silence. You’ll have to control your urges and learn to be comfortable in silence.
Also, don’t sweat too hard because covering/uninstalling cameras like this is misdemenor-level vandalism (don’t take the cameras, they cost enough to warrant felony grand theft charges).
You’ll have a bond and the bond will be low enough that most bail bondsmen will bond you out on promise of payment even if you don’t have someone outside ready to come get you.
If you’re caught, you’re looking at a few months of probation and restitution. If confront with police, stay calm, follow orders, “I don’t want to answer questions without a lawyer” and “<Your name>” are all you need to say. Do that an you’ll be right back home opening a gofundme in no time.
Don’t do crimes though, obviously.
ObiOne thing missing from the list is disguising your gait/walk. I don’t know how far along they are with reconciling databases about it, but the technology to identify you by the way you walk already exists. I hear adding a pebble in your shoe helps.
Good, fuck this panopticon dystopia shit.
Also, some guy sliced the entire pole and left a message:
hahaha get wrecked you surveilling fucks
Can’t have shit in Detroit.
They sell battery powered angle grinders at Harbour Freight.
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☂️-i prefer the one in the picture by a commentor, permanently remove the flock camera.
M137Waaaaay easier and cheaper to replace the lenses than a whole pole, including everything that was on it. And I think an angle grinder with some disks would cost about as much as a paintball gun with permanent ink ammo, and the former being much more bang for your buck in terms of damage done and also use other than for this.
But the way this are repaired and replaced, one ability to damage or obstructe the camera quickly and without being noticed is going to be the most important thing. Ankle grinding on a poll for 2 min isn’t ideal. What is the camera isn’t mounted on a poll? The result is going to be a technician coming out and installing a new camera. Swing back around a couple well placed shots from 50 years away. Beats having to spend another 2min with a grinder.
Wear a mask
Definitely eat ass
potoooooooo ✅️No need to be crass.
Enough with the sass
As I’ve got to dash
Hit the gas!
muusemuuseYou can get the same thing cheaper via Craigslist and they’ll have a harder time tracing ownership. A crackhead Hawking stolen hardware store crap is not going to really be as helpful to the surveillance state as they’d like.
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