@jwz Firefox market share is <6%. Zen is trying to port the much-loved features from the now stagnant Arc, but the result so far is clunky and I've returned to Arc because it's more perfect right now for how I work and play.

Mozilla needs a mission bigger than just a standards-based browser. It should be experimenting with new UX. Not Liquid Glass UI/UX, but Arc-like UX.

Perhaps they should be experimenting with AI, with the goal of making AI invisible to the user without boiling the oceans.

@jwz What is accomplished with an irrelevant Mozilla? What are FF and Mozilla in 10 years being only a standards based browser?

My original post agreed with points 1 and 2, but I trimmed them due to length. I believe those are noble goals, but you are effectively killing FF. Maybe you want EFF but for the Web.

That said, I didn't really agree with any of the question choices so I posted only a comment.

@n3bulous How you judge the success of a commercial product is by counting users and counting ad revenue.

How you judge the success of a reference implementation is by standards compliance and code reusability.

I guess you think Mozilla should be a company making a product rather than a nonprofit whose mission is the open web, with a reference implementation existing only in service of that goal.

@jwz I see where you are coming from. I was operating from where they are now, and you are saying they shouldn't be doing most of it? That would be fair.

At one point, as you know, people were concerned with being compatible with Firefox/Navigator. My perspective is that was because a significant marketshare used it. Right now, it seems most companies target only Chrome and hope for the best with others (while forcing excessive amounts of React down our tubes).