"They dont have congress" get fucked. Do they not know how to speak, either?

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/64158870

Democrats: Got any money?

No, but seriously. They are professional fumblers. They fucked up the last election hilariously bad by running Biden for so long.

Yes, my fellow citizens are idiots, but they should’ve known better!

Need to stop thinking about them as leader and just people who arent good at anything but showing up for stuff.

Spot on with this perspective.

They’re management on a nice suit insisting everyone show up for content that’s so exciting it’s better left to an email.

Now, I can’t unsee it.

Except AOC and Bernie, of course, they have their shit together.

imagine if people who were good at other things started showing up to those meetings
Nah that’s too much work. Shitting on the Dems on the intertubes is way easier.
So which Congress members have you voted for ?
… you want to rethink your question?

Not at all I’m asking a straight forward question. Which Congress members did you vote for? Or do you cower behind anonymity? The Democrats are shit, but they still apparently have the feck to show themselves instead of hiding and denouncing all without ever saying anything meaningful. The majority of the U.S supports right wing beliefs. You condiscend them as many of us do, but you cower and hide and ask someone to “re-think” their question when asked a direct question.

Who did you elect, and why.

How do you want others to help, if you show no brass yourself

uh what? I think the “rethink” might’ve been more of a “rephrase the question” statement. Voting for congress members is state based… which is an identifier and anonymity is the whole fucking point to platforms like this. “The majority of the U.S supports right wing beliefs.”, citation needed because that’s a very broad decree you’re standing by. I’m not sure what the rest of your tangent is about but if you’re trying to get a valid point across, it got lost in your tirade.
Please, post your address, first.
They really should have - Biden’s struggles with dementia were common knowledge amongst his staff by 2022. There is no excuse for not holding a primary election in good faith, other than they don’t believe in democracy any more than Repugs do.
Doesn’t matter who they run at this point. They just keep running candidates that are safe neo-libs that will legalize pot and let you paint rainbow crosswalks while still bending a knee to their corporate overlords.
Maybe watch cspan instead of Fox? Mainstream media is Conservative or full Maga.
Democrats aren’t doing much there, either. You’re not wrong that the media ignores or actively attacks anything resembling leadership, because a progressive political agenda is a threat to their power structure. But there is still a dearth of leaders among the elected.

for real. they should be LITERALLY AND PHYSICALLY SCREAMING in the halls. When told “how unprofessional” they should respond with “my opponents are fascists. fuck professionalism.”

BUT since they are not burning shit down, one can only assume they are in on the fascism too.

Are you ‘burning shit down’?

a) where I can, yes. b) local politics, I am involved in. but i am not an elected federal official with ability to affect change and choice to not do it c) i serve the mutual aid part of my mindset as a first responder over 20 years now d) and finally I support systems who help others learn and grow.

are you?

What have you burned down? Sounds like you’re mostly working within the system to improve it and being a reasonable professional serving the greater good in the best way you know, which is (apparently) lame.
lol. physically burning things down - as a firefighter i tend to do the opposite. but holding people accountable in a public forum like our dumb selectmen meetings and such - yes, I have done. i do not have the financial freedom to cane a fascist in the halls like the good ole days.
No screaming in the hallways tho’ ?
naa. no voice.
What does that have to do with elected officials not using the power they’ve been granted?
“Shouting in the hallways”?
Yes all that minority party power.

You are falling for Chuck Schumer’s lies. Back in October, the US government was shut down for over 30 days because the Democrats were using their power to force the Republicans to the bargaining table. However, it worked too well and regular people started notcing that the Dems had power, even as the minority party, so Establishment Dems conceded and reopened the government. In return, the Dems got nothing for the regular working people who gave them that power.

The minority party is not helpless. We saw this under the Obama admin where Mitch McConnell led the Republican Minorty party to rampage and obstruct the Democrats at every turn. The Dems have power, they are choosing not to exert any of it.

Not saying theyre helpless. They should do what they can.

But… When Democrats are in power people complain about Democrats. When Republicans are in power people complain about… Democrats.

It’s exhausting. Find a new schtick or actually participate in primaries to get these people out.

People complain about the Dems because they have not been using the powers they’ve been granted. They are elected to pass policies and fight the Republican fascist agenda and they have seemingly rolled over more often than not. Rachet Effect and all that.

It sucks that hearing these complaints is exhausting to you, but as can be seen from this thread, there are lots of people making excuses for the Democrat party that seemingly need to hear this stuff. These folks are not helping primary useless Dems, instead spending their time and energy deflecting criticism away.

These people just convince everyone that any and every dem is useless and decrease turnout.

Compared to the Republicans who get no real criticism as it’s just accepted. You might not like that but it’s the truth.

Then do it

i am not an elected official nor with enough backing finance to support getting fired for the outrage, unlike the ppl in office who’s literal job is to do it. life under capitalism makes it difficult to fight after a certain point.

so i stick do doing local fights. I do those.

This would be more apt if it was a bloated corpse with flies circling.
Honestly, the Republicans and MAGA are doing enough to hurt themselves and stop themselves. Just waiting will solve a lot of the problems.
… the gop has no plans on losing power and thinking they’ll somehow fail now after theyve thwarted every attempt to stop them is absolutely insane.
Oh, they’ll definitely crash the ship and it’ll burn, but they’ll be floating on the corpses of everyone else at the end of it. So, I guess, in a sense, ChicoSuave right?
Democrats have been working for the past year to get IEEPA tariffs struck down, and it worked. Take that win.
And then two hours later Trump just said “nuh uh” and raised tariffs globally another 10%.
Not another 10%, a new round of tariffs at 10%. Notice how it’s only that amount and not 150% because these ones are capped at 15%, plus these can only be in place for 150 days under the law they used.
There you go again. Interrupting a cherished narrative with nuanced facts. Keep it going!

Political focus groups suggest that any opinion or stance on any issue may open a politician to criticism, so obviously doing nothing will yield optimal polling results! /s

The consultant wing needs to fucking die.

Well that’s true.
they are doing exactly what they intended to do. what you want from them is another matter they are unconcerned with

Voters: We want a lefty MTG, screaming at the SOTU and saying outrageous shit all the time!

[eventually gets lefty MTG screaming at the SOTU and saying outrageous shit all the time]

Voters: Not like that!

What do you mean, they don’t speak? They speak all the time!

Are you listening?

They speak the all important language of cashing donor checks from AIPAC and then doing Israel’s bidding.
This is the only answer. They are bought by corporations and do not serve the people. You are delusional if you think motherfucking Chuck Schumer is working for you.
When they speak: “Oh, a sternly worded letter, that’ll fix it”

They could abuse quorum rules or incessantly call for a point of order if they cared. Anything to slow down this fascist machine.

When Biden/Obama were in office they had the power to keep Congress in session indefinitely if they wanted.

But they don’t care.

Psa: Maga want you to stay at home and not vote. There are organized campains just to demoralize you and keep you at home in the next elections.

You know what demoralizes me?

That my 80 year-old parents are stuck in poverty no matter who we elect. They were poor under Obama. Poorer under Trump I, and then poorer still under Biden. They’re 80 years old and driving for DoorDash, and no Democrat is going to lift a finger to stop it.

Then dont vote. I’m sure someone will be happy to decide for you.

You partisans have created a world where voting matters so little to most that, yes, they might as well not miss a day of work for all the good it does in their lives.

Hopefully the people can elect a few more Zohrans and Platners and thumb you all in the eyes a bit.

Then you will get more trump with tax cuts for the rich and tarifs for you. And spoiler alert, the zohrans wont win if you will not vote. The elections are not only once every 4 years.
Oh look, more people saying look at the Democrats and not every single Republican.
… if I said what I wanted about the republicans you certainly wouldn’t have tp worry about me posting anymore.
They’re gonna do nothing, run Newsom, and blame the left if it’s even a close race

Newsom will run but these early contenders use to get creamed in the primaries just because they take up too much spot light in the lead up and people are sick of them come voting.

I couod wrong, newsom definitely seems like the play for the establishment guys. There’s a bunch of lower rank guys in red districts that are making plays too, though.

Ill vote for a hamsandwich if it means trump is gone but I dont expect any major change. Major change will only come if the people do something, not polioticians.

He wants to be the left and center guy. I think he’ll end up being neither.
Honestly, really need to temperature your expectations in general. Say we put jesus christ himself in charge of thr country. Do you think he would be able to get anything substantial done short of calling on his god powers?
Yeah I hear what you’re saying. I wonder though if we should even stop thinking about getting an admin in to fix everything in 4 years and get an admin in who will play the actual game that’s afoot right now: the battle for the soul of America. The far right pitch to Americans is clear, it resonates with many, and it has an army of mouthpieces repeating it daily. I don’t even know what the left’s pitch is. I know what I think it should be, but who out there is even articulating any vision? I think the right is up against general reality most of the time. But that’s not enough/

The leftists are being puppeted right now They so desperatey want a voice they let the internet give them one and its not their own. Its the internet with a lefty mask on.

Leftest need to stop fighting the tide and learn to float. Thats just a useless metaphor but what im saying is they have to play the game not just critique it.