SalamenceFeb 19

Dbzero has Defederated from Feddit.org following its Governance post about the later's "Zionist Bar Problem"

https://lemmy.zip/post/59366322

Dbzero has Defederated from Feddit.org following its Governance post about the later's "Zionist Bar Problem" - Lemmy.zip

Dbzero Governance Vote Post https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/63525728 [https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/63525728] >Ahoy mateys! >A few of our users have recently pointed out that a lot of the pro-Zionist accounts on the fediverse nowadays seem to come from the feddit.org [http://feddit.org] instance. >But whatever the excuse happens to be, they need to do better imo. Israel is currently the most violent, fascist and genocidal nation state in the Middle East (if you exclude the US military bases there). And yet feddit.org [http://feddit.org] seems to regard the Palestinians fighting against Israel’s ongoing illegal occupation of their land as the real terrorists. … >More context >Our instance already voted to ban pro-Zionist accounts (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60585441 [https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60585441] for reference) and the rule that was implemented is here: Golden Rule #8. >As further context, you can find relevant comments and discussion in this post by a banned feddit admin in MoG (that fact they chose to post in MoG is in itself quite telling), and this post about their defederation from quokk.au [http://quokk.au] over anti-semitism allegations has recently become active again. … >Note 2: If you think feddit.org [http://feddit.org] deserves a full instance ban instead, or have alternative suggestions, then please leave your comments below. If enough people think that’s the better option, then we’ll do that instead. In the end the Post had around 70% of support by dbzer0 users, who in the comments also called for defederation. Here is a Link to Dbzer0 instances tab https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/instances [https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/instances] where if you go to blocked instances you can see fedddit.org [http://fedddit.org] is now defederated i dont think feddit has made a post now, but when they do i will add it

Show threadIceFeb 20
It’s sad to see dbzer0 slowly creeping towards authoritarianism. This is exactly the kind of reason I couoldn’t entertain making it my primary instance unfortunately.
Show threadCowbee [he/they]Feb 20
Yet another example of why the abstract concept of “authoritarianism” is useless. In this case, the people of dbzer0 decided democratically to wield their authority to defederate from an instance with an explicit Zionist problem. It isn’t the defederation that’s the problem in the abstract, or the authority, it’s the fact that this authority was used against Zionists.
Show threadIce

or the authority

Authority is exactly the problem. Who would’ve thought that somebody with an account on an anarchist instance has problems with other people telling them what they can and can’t do?

Shocking, I know.

Feb 20 at 12:19pmWeb
Show threadCowbee [he/they]Feb 20
You’re arguing against the people wielding their power against Zionists and in favor of Zionists being able to speak freely. You moved to an instance with stricter defederation, showing you don’t care about defederation in the abstract, but what was being defederated.
Show threadIceFeb 20

Wow, is it really so hard to believe that I’m, you know, saying what I think?

.world happened to be my first fediverse account, dbzer0 came later. I’ve lots at this point, exactly because of instance defederation, but the idea of what db0 was doing seemed particularly interesting, hence my disappointment.

In any case I’ve nothing more to add here.

Hope you get a nice weekend, ciao.

Show threadCowbee [he/they]Feb 20
I don’t think it’s particularly interesting that anarchists defederated from Zionists.
Show threadBrainInABoxFeb 21

Wow, is it really so hard to believe that I’m, you know, saying what I think?

Yes, because it openly contradicts your actions

Show threadQinShiHuangsShlongFeb 20
So all moderation is wrong? Also you seem to very clearly not understand what anarchism is beyond the infantile “tyranny of bedtime” surface.
Show threadIceFeb 21

So all moderation is wrong?

No.

Show threadQinShiHuangsShlongFeb 21

Who would’ve thought that somebody with an account on an anarchist instance has problems with other people telling them what they can and can’t do?

Sure sounds like you’re against moderation. Or are you just a liar who only cares because it’s about shunning Zionism.

Show threadBrainInABoxFeb 20
You mean like you telling every other user on db0 that they can’t defed?
Show threadIceFeb 21
You can achieve essentially the same effect via blocking. Bypassing defederation instead requires using a different instance.