@jamie Those South Korean Tanks and guns have a significant portion of US Tech and components. They have been designed and built with American help. What Canada is doing is still buying US stuff through a circuitous route. Just like the proposed Swedish #Gripen which is based on a US engine, GE F414 and has significant US ECW components in it.

If Canada were to get serious, which it is not, it would buy German tanks or build one of its own in collaboration with UK or others.

@welkin7 Well, you aren’t wrong but Germany isn’t the right country to buy tanks from now. Were using German tanks now, but Germany needs it’s own tanks, the difference between putting Canadians or Germans in the tanks isn’t useful. Those tanks really should stay in Europe right now.

The real problem with the F35 is the tech that can’t be licensed and built locally, and it integrates and is meant to work within the Americans intelligence framework and their software. If the engines are made in Sweden or Canada that’s not a problem that GE designed the engine. F35 components are not available like this. F35 has a lot of secrets built in. I’m not an expert on the Gripen so if you are saying it’s compromised I’ll take your word for it. Something completely clean would be ideal. But is that for sale? France maybe, but I’m not sure they have the production capacity.

I don’t trust the UK much more than I do the USA, we shouldn’t use their tech either.

@jamie Rheinmetall and KNDS can setup a plant in Canada to build Leopard 2 tanks for Canada and #EU. I am not saying that #Gripen is compromised. Rather buying equipment which has significant or critical components from US does not in any way achieve anything.

Does Canada really want to be independent from US or does it want to maintain a certain distance? Can Canada afford to do this? #Trump's term ends in 2028. He will be a lame duck post 2026 mid terms based on projections.