veganboyjosh
Victator
samiamsamno education
no food
no healthcare
no living wage
no affordable housing
we can't afford those
OmnivoreSarah J. Jackson
@sjjphd.bsky.social
Someone has sure already made this observation but the fact they can convert all those empty warehouses into prison camps means they could have converted them into housing, community centers, job training centers or, hell, libraries or schools all along. It's always a matter of will not resources.
Henri Verwijmeren
Kevin Boyd (he/him) 🇨🇦@vicfroh @kf ... but that doesn't square with the ongoing mistreatment of their captives; instead, history suggests it's going to be a cut-rate conversion job, probably with someone pocketing the bulk of the money and leaving the internees to rot.
So it doesn't mean they could have converted the buildings to those things, because those things require standards fit for human occupancy.
cwicseolfor@kboyd @vicfroh @kf EDIT:
THIRTY FIVE [not eighty-five*] billion-with-a-B buys a *Whole Lot* of livable housing.
It'd pay for our libraries about SEVENTEEN [not forty] times over.
Especially in the places they're buying up warehouses.
Edit context:
*Sorry, I actually was remembering the total ICE budget and not the specific concentration camp earmarked slush fund of the ICE budget. Is that still a RIDICULOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY for any purpose? yes. Also people would be astounded how little money a lot of public services like libraries have to get by on despite also having the liabilities and real estate obligations of physical space. Things are A LOT CHEAPER when there are fewer middlemen collecting a profit between revenue & service outputs.
@martlund 🌲🐶🇸🇪🇨🇱🌈@vicfroh Prisons for profit is making Congress RICH
Toni Aittoniemi@vicfroh Always seem to have money for prisons, eh?
And no wonder people sell, too. ICE seems to pay an extra 100 million for some of these, talk about profit!
Profit doesn’t end there either: Inmates will have to work. Which gives labour way under minimum wage.
I think the real plan is not to remove immigrants at all, but to turn them into slave labour. 😟😞
haui ☭
🇵🇸@vicfroh #alt4you Bluesky screenshot from Sarah J. Jackson @sjjphd.bsky.social -
"Someone has sure already made this observation but the fact they can convert all those empty warehouses into prison camps means they could have converted them into housing, community centers, job training centers or, hell, libraries or schools all along. It's always a matter of will not resources."
"Someone has sure already made this observation but the fact they can convert all those empty warehouses into prison camps means they could have converted them into housing, community centers, job training centers or, hell, libraries or schools all along. It's always a matter of will not resources."
Bolt@vicfroh We can use that money to build housing, but what they're currently building in these warehouses isn't housing, it's shoddy jails.
Housing is when you have proper ventilation, heating, cooling, a bathroom, kitchen, storage, a bed, etc.
This is cages with mattresses on the floors, concrete slabs in place of tables or couches, no private space, personal bathrooms, or accessible kitchens, and isn't designed for long-term use.
This will cost a lot less than real housing funding reforms.
Null Hypothesis
Ditol@vicfroh
You certainly could use the money for all those things, but not the buildings. They are absolutely unfit for housing, schools or libraries. You might convert them into some job training centers or community centers, but it would cost you probably just as much as building new, purpose planned buildings and you would end up with ugly hardly fit for purpose community centers without windows/day light in most rooms, situated somewhere in the middle of an industrial area, far away from the community they are supposed to serve. I am sorry, but no, you cannot convert those warehouses into all the good things you need right now. The fact they are converting them into prisons only means they are creating new prisons which are basically unfit for human long term presence in them. Because they don't care about the basic well being of the people they put in those prisons.
You certainly could use the money for all those things, but not the buildings. They are absolutely unfit for housing, schools or libraries. You might convert them into some job training centers or community centers, but it would cost you probably just as much as building new, purpose planned buildings and you would end up with ugly hardly fit for purpose community centers without windows/day light in most rooms, situated somewhere in the middle of an industrial area, far away from the community they are supposed to serve. I am sorry, but no, you cannot convert those warehouses into all the good things you need right now. The fact they are converting them into prisons only means they are creating new prisons which are basically unfit for human long term presence in them. Because they don't care about the basic well being of the people they put in those prisons.
decapitae
Aatch@vicfroh the conclusion isn't wrong, but warehouses are designed for stuff, not people so the fact they're using them for concentration camps doesn't mean anything except that they don't view the people being concentrated as people.
Converting a warehouse to a school or a library would either result in a terrible school/library or cost more than just building a new facility.
Alex Excrement-getter 😷 🍉@vicfroh that just means that all those welfare state projects are like prisons too. fuck teachers, fuck housing projects, fuck schools. The land is not for warehouses what the fuck is a warefhouse its a shit building. if you let people alone to be criminals then they could do their own shit, but they keep killing, beating, and ganging up on the most vulnerable people without houses like your house so the possibility of having land be free is not even thought about just stuff them somewhere, how about leave us alone, welfare state, democracy what shit it is, nobody gets left alone. a community cebter, not my fucking community, a community is when everyone is a center. fuck center, fuck warehouses, what kind of shit observation it is, make an observation that all thise libraries maybe the furniture the building were built by the convicts too, the reality keeps leaking into this fantasy of welfare state, we must leave it behind. job training? fuck you! what about no training, no job, no more fucking control!! but in the end all you can use this observation for is to get people to vote for something, its like an advertisement observation, fucking lie.