regarding recent events: which of the following would you be happy to use if someone asked to message you, like right now

as in: you have an account & client(s) set up, and wouldn't be wishing you were using a different platform due to a lacking feature set, subpar client, unreliability, problematic notifications etc

xmpp
9.3%
matrix
14.8%
signal
37.6%
stoat
5.4%
fluxer
3.3%
spacebar
0.2%
telegram
11.8%
discord
17.5%
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@tay only Signal for me, I'm looking forward to Molly's Flatline server, hopefully it will eventually support federation or something.

And someday when Fedi gets E2EE DMs.

I refuse to use anything else because people smarter than me from the cryptography field (e.g. Soatok) have written countless blog posts and articles about why XMPP, Matrix, *shudder* Session and Threema, and so on, suck, and we shouldn't use them if we give a shit about security and privacy.

Telegram is not E2EE unless you use secret chats. Group chats and regular DMs are just not encrypted at all besides standard server security. Discord is a shithole and a privacy nightmare, Stoat (was Revolt, tested it a bit back then) doesn't do much and E2EE has been on the back-burner for years.

Matrix is very problematic because only a few clients implement the latest features so it's either Element / Element X or some other client that has bad UI and doesn't support the latest features.

@tay As for XMPP, I ran a little test on the Conversations.Im app which was unintuitive and XMPP still allows plaintext (which should not be a thing!).

And "alternatives" like DeltaChat and ArcaneChat are icky for me. I tested DC and AC, but I don't like the way it's marketed and shilled on Fedi, it reminds me of cargo cults, but that applies to XMPP and Matrix as well imo.

It uses OpenPGP and Autocrypt, and if I understand this right from the numerous in-depth articles I've read about and understood half of what they said, PGP is antiquated hot garbage that we should have moved away from decades ago.

So for me, I have no alternatives right now. I use Molly and that's about it. But it depends on your use case. I'm just tired of trying different things that end up not being as secure.