What does it mean to be "Treated like a human"?

A few days ago I was responding to comments on 196 and someone said to me that I should make my species identity more clear if I want to be treated as a human. What does that mean exactly? Maybe I'm way overthinking it, it just seems weird.

I mean for me all that really matters is that others treat me with dignity and respect. That doesn't seem like being "treated like a human" to me, that just seems like the natural way one should treat someone human or otherwise.

I apologize if I'm ignorant or if I'm just overthinking things. I'm genuinely asking out of curiosity and a desire to learn and understand better.

@transspecies

#therian #otherkin #advice #help #lgbt #lgbtq #lgbtqia #queer

Also yes @Grail this post was inspired by Your response to me in 196. Was something I ended up thinking about for a while. I didn't mention You in the post since user mentions can sometimes break Mastodon posting to Lemmy/Threadiverse services.

@transspecies

Humans tend to like being addressed with labels like “man”, “woman”, and “person”, rather than “male”, “female”, and “critter”. They tend to dislike having it/its pronouns used to refer to them. While some of them like being pet on the head and given treats, it’s less than many animal species. Since you’re a dragon furry, a critter might assume you identify as a dragon and start talking about the wings, tail, horns, and claws they imagine you to have. I’ve even seen the assumed presence of horns cause body dysmorphia in the dragonkin community, between dragons who have horns and dragons who don’t.

And I’m actually treating you as a human right not by treating you like you don’t already know all of this stuff. Members of the community are assumed to have a certain level of knowledge and direct experience with labels, phantom sensations, etc. Because if someone’s otherkin and they know it, they must have felt certain feelings and read certain information to reach that point. It’s not the same feelings and information for everyone, but people sometimes assume it is.

Another thing is, you probably don’t want people asking your kintype or offering to help you connect to your astral body. Those are nice things to do to an otherkin, but humans can get a bit confused when it happens to them. Humans tend to already be happy with their physical bodies. And I’m not talking about sexual characteristics, I mean stuff like having skin and fingernails and tongues. Disgusting sources of dysphoria to many otherkin, but perfectly agreeable to humans.

@Draconic_NEO

i don't have an answer but that person was absolutely just being a jerk

@matildalove I don't think They were trying to be mean to me. I think They were trying to be helpful. I was just confused by how it was worded.
@Draconic_NEO @matildalove the person was being insensitive at best

@zaire @matildalove
Maybe, I don't know to be honest. It felt mildly awkward in the moment but I didn't feel like They were being harsh

Here's the comment thread in a screenshot. And a Link as well.

@Draconic_NEO @matildalove oh, no no they’re making sense there, if you call yourself a dragon you’ll be getting treated as a dragon. it works like gender, people who aren’t assholes treat others as the gender they say they are, same thing with species

@zaire
I'm confused what that means exactly though. Like as you said earlier human is a biological characteristic. Personhood is based on being a sapient being.
Ultimately for me it only matters that other people treat me with dignity and respect. I don't have strong preferences about what people call me. I mean I sometimes say I'm a dragon, it doesn't mean that much to me.

What matters most is that people respect me as a sapient individual.

@matildalove

@zaire
I'm probably way overthinking this...

@matildalove

@Draconic_NEO you really are yeah. someone told you you should jump through hoops to earn basic respect, and you're looking for ways to justify their position. the definition of human isn't relevant here, they just wanted to normalize being a shit to thought patterns outside the mainstream
@Draconic_NEO oh.. okay nevermind, sorry. without context it has a completely different meaning

@Draconic_NEO make the distinction between human and person and insist on it

human is an irrelevant biological characteristic

people, aka sapient beings, are what matters

Humans, in general, tend to assume that they are the only ones worth being treated a certain way and disregard all species as worth less consideration than them (though some humans also consider other humans that way too, sadly).

We agree with @zivi@fedi.absturztau.be that “people” can be used to refer to any species and all people deserve respect, autonomy, care and consideration, even if a person has been conditioned to think of others as beneath them they should do their best to go against this conditioning.

Anything else is speciesism, whether the person is a cis member of their species or a trans member of their species.