SnoopJOoh, the #Tauon music player supports embedded lyrics and has a good-enough synchronized lyrics display
this might become a thing for me, it would be MUCH easier to edit and sync lyrics on PC before copying to mobile
the only question then is whether this application will let me edit and sync on PC, and how good that is compared to Musicolet's version
okay Tauon does have an synchronized lyrics editor. the UX isn't as good as Musicolet's, but it's there.
in particular, Tauon's workflow is pretty smooth, and I'm quoting from the manual here "if you don't make any mistakes"
if you *do* make a mistake, particularly one where you advanced a line too early, well, good luck
AFAICT the best UX currently for that is to copy the text for that line, delete the line, insert a new one, and re-time it.
in Musicolet, you rewind a bit and tap the sync button at the right time. Musicolet's interactive timing marks the moment that a line *begins*, but Tauon's workflow is organized around you pressing the button when whatever it currently thinks is the current line ENDS
not really any dev instructions, and the "magic" `run.sh` that looks like the one-stop shop for development environment setup didn't work for me.
excuse me, what
```
if sethint_result is None:
logging.error("Failed to run SetHint, probably due to https://github.com/Aermoss/PySDL3/issues/35, will try a workaround")
sys.exit(1)
```
some kind of quirk of `PySDL3-Build` that involves downloading a tarball of a bunch of .so directly from GitHub (😬) and which I seem to have to trigger manually
oh
```
builtins._ = translation.gettext
```
oh dear
the way Tauon detects a click in the lyrics editor is a dizzying nest of conditions and loops that scans over every clickable thing and determines if a click occurred and if it's in-bounds
rather than inverting that, starting with a click as an event and looking up what might have been targeted by it
[low whistle]
clearly I am not going to get anywhere with this right now, especially as it is exceedingly late (early?) here
but this was a fun little exercise, and maybe I can tweak this to be less painful for me personally to use.
even an ability to reset the timing of a line will help. maybe that even exists already but is poorly documented. we'll see
Rusty Shackleford
d@nny disc@ mc²@SnoopJ that's a whole little community living inside your main() function. free them!!!?
Cassandra is only carbon now@SnoopJ Yeah... Calibre does that too...
@xgranade issue here is that the clever trick didn't actually work in at least one spot, but that might be a gaffe since the last release, I'm not on a tag
@xgranade yea, looks like some kind of bug they introduced since December. Guess I have more homework to do if I end up contributing anything.
@SnoopJ Yeah, there's a reason hooking things onto builtins is... inadvisable.
@xgranade yea I'm not even sure *how* it broke in that way, other than that I'm sure it's due to being excessively clever by binding it this way.
makes `global` look sophisticated!
@SnoopJ Global state is to be avoided, but there will always be some, I get it. Attaching global state to random stdlib modules is... not how I would suggest handling it.
Alyssa Coghlan@xgranade @SnoopJ I'm not sure Tauon or Calibre can be blamed for that one, since it's a longstanding convention for hooking UI string display for local translation: https://docs.python.org/3/library/gettext.html#internationalizing-your-programs-and-modules
Even the stdlib isn't really the origin of the convention, though, as Python's gettext layer inherited that convention from C. Hysterical raisins strike again!
@ancoghlan @SnoopJ Absolutely. It's more the practice of attaching it to a stdlib module that I was calling out.
@ancoghlan @SnoopJ Considering I've seen `import sys; sys.foo = bar` used to manage global state...
All joking aside, yeah, __builtins__ was a good name.
@ancoghlan @xgranade I guess I'm outing myself as someone who doesn't work with a lot of internationalization, then!
I wonder if the behavior I saw was due to doing this manually rather than calling `install()` 
@SnoopJ @xgranade There are definitely plenty of ways to mess it up (an unfortunately common one is a library messing with the builtins as a side effect of import instead of restricting that to configuration functions that are explicitly called from the application setup code. The logging config, standard streams, and the import system are also common targets for that kind of cross-project interference).
@ancoghlan @xgranade at least it's due to a recent change, so I can bisect to get some more info!
Jeff Forcier