adafruitFeb 14

Here's Our First Gemini Deep Think LLM-Assisted Hardware Design

We've been using LLMs for software and firmware for years... now we're trying hardware. Threw a MAX44009 datasheet at Gemini Deep Think, asked for an EagleCAD library file, and about 10 minutes later it popped out working XML. Loaded it in Eagle, checked the pins and dimensions, rolled with it.

Show threadɩɐɥɔɐɿɐɯFeb 14
@adafruit This is sad. I used to have such respect for adafruit. I have lost it now upon learning this. #NoAi
Show threadSamFeb 15
@malachai @adafruit I mean no disrespect when I ask why this is not an appropriate use generative AI? Capturing footprints and schematic symbols is pure drive work that can take hours before you even start the actual engineering. The tech bros talk a lot of crap, but getting the machines to do these boring robotic tasks really does free up engineers to do creative work.
Show threadTretronFeb 15
@orangutanlibrarian @malachai @adafruit not really, managing the library and footprints is about 1/10 of thr work load of electrical design. Hardly ever you need to make your own footprint since most components use standard footprints. Realistically most vendors already offer kicad library files if not the footprint files. I would wager it takes me more work checking if the shitbox machine generated correct files then I am making my own files.
Show threadGabriele SveltoFeb 15
@tretron @orangutanlibrarian @malachai @adafruit and let's not forget that this technology currently burned through 840 billion $ of aggregated funding. With a microscopic fraction of that budget we could probably automate the issue away with a suitable and reliable tool. For that kind of money every problem you can think of has a better solution than an LLM.
Show threadTretronFeb 15

@gabrielesvelto (removed other respondants not to spam with messages)

I did a bit of estimation and 840 bilion $ would roughly equate to 56700 metric tons of CO2 reduced. Which would save human kind a collective 10,489,500,000 $ in climate related damages annualy. And ofcourse this does not take into account what such a boom of money would do to the reduction in price for green energy. so the effects would be even greater.

Show threadiweinFeb 15
@tretron @gabrielesvelto one ton of CO2 removal costs less than €100 atm, so you're a few orders of magnitude off.
Show threadTretron
@iwein @gabrielesvelto I did not calculate with removal cost but the cost that the damages would do per ton CO2. as a guestimation, worked with about 195 USD per ton, would be roughly the same magnitude as 100 euros per ton. It's all guestimation in the end. Not a client scientist, they do the fancy math. It's more the point that all this money that is beeing poured inot Generative AI datacenters could honestly be better used reducing the harmful gasses.
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