The problem with ditching services like Discord or Google Docs or Dropbox isn't me, I'm happy to do it. It's everyones I need to work with. They aren't going to join my self-hosted service just to exchange work files or chat, etc. I've tried.

@grumpygamer

Yeah, that sucks. I got away from most big tech stuff and other services/apps i consider immoral and/or unethical, but i can't leave, for example, WhatsApp, since doing that would cut me off from communicating with most of my country.

@axalote @grumpygamer

I can understand you, even I don't use WhatsApp.

That is the reason, why I have got nearly zero contacts.

Everyone in Ireland I am asking to use Signal seems totally scared to use anything else than WhatsApp

@desatyr @grumpygamer

Convenience is a bitch, people don't want to try the unknown and that's how big companies can continue being number 1 even with a worse product (e.g. Windows).