Nina KalininaWe have reached a new era of civil engineering; now we can build bridges by simply dumping truckloads of shit into the river until the shit mountains are tall enough that some people and maybe cars can cross the river. Truly, it is a revolutionary technology that democraticizes access to bridges; now everyone can dump a truckload of shit over small rivers here and there and cross the rivers instead of asking an engineer to build the bridge for them. This approach completely removes all the bottlenecks in engineering, too: no need to navigate difficult legal or ethical frameworks. The biggest players on the market are staring to replace their bridges with shit mountains, you'd better be catching up and learning how to use this new groundbreaking technology. Some of you have ethical concerns, but this is beyond of the scope of my post. I also recognise that some might notice fish in the rivers dying, or simply slip on the shit; just you wait, I bet it'll be fixed in ~6 months
Cosmo@nina_kali_nina Oh wow – this analogy is pretty strong. Will test this against unsuspecting AI prophets next possibility.
@ChrSt I feel like I'm making way too many strawmans here. But as you can tell, I'm very bitter about the loss of engineering practices across the industry, or, rather, industries
@nina_kali_nina Additionally realization I had today:
Why do we (as in ppl) need to democratize art? There is so much beautiful art out there. Why do I need to be able to create "art"? What do we gain from emotionless slop art?
Why do we (as in ppl) need to democratize art? There is so much beautiful art out there. Why do I need to be able to create "art"? What do we gain from emotionless slop art?
Bill@ChrSt @nina_kali_nina I thought art was already ready pretty democratic. Or are we talking about art in the sense of commodity objects that have "value" due to their requisite aspirational skill-level to reproduce. Anyone with a mouth can rap. Why do we need to "democratize" that one Wu-Tang record (except to seize power from that douchebag Martin Shikreli)
@FloppySalmon @nina_kali_nina I mean art more in a drawing kind of region.
It is not democratized for me, as I do not have the means (mostly as in time) to hone skills required to produce something „drawn“, that makes me happy looking at it.
It is not democratized for me, as I do not have the means (mostly as in time) to hone skills required to produce something „drawn“, that makes me happy looking at it.
@ChrSt @FloppySalmon you know, I've been typing and erasing my reply to this message a few times. Do you need help? There really are options available for uhhh art
@nina_kali_nina @FloppySalmon as in wanting to make a point this might have gotten a grimmer tone, than what reality really reflects – so no worries :D
But what you write is the perfect embodiment of what I meant, just for text (and what has been said by @FloppySalmon in extension): putting the effort, rewriting, rethinking – instead of mindlessly letting the slop machine inflate a feeble thought. This puts soul into things – text, drawings, music and likes.
This is what I am afraid to loose. Either because it is outright slop, or because ppl that try avoiding burning a planet for a shitty mail text feel so under pressure to follow the trend of „a lot of text fast“ that they also will stop having this soul in their works.
But what you write is the perfect embodiment of what I meant, just for text (and what has been said by @FloppySalmon in extension): putting the effort, rewriting, rethinking – instead of mindlessly letting the slop machine inflate a feeble thought. This puts soul into things – text, drawings, music and likes.
This is what I am afraid to loose. Either because it is outright slop, or because ppl that try avoiding burning a planet for a shitty mail text feel so under pressure to follow the trend of „a lot of text fast“ that they also will stop having this soul in their works.
@nina_kali_nina @FloppySalmon (somehow sorry for bringing yet another stream of thoughts to this :D)
@ChrSt @FloppySalmon no worries! I actually made a blog post in the spirit of this half a year ago. Long story short: I was working on a little video game, I needed art for a character who is a revolutionary, and I built a character sheet based on it. I am sure that a talented artist could have made a great illustration based on this character sheet. I think GenAI wouldn't have any difficulty in generating an illustration that, with a bit of extra polish, would have looked professional, and reflected the character sheet. And I think if I used either of these two options I'd be pressured to accept it if it looked good.
But I was drawing the illustration myself. Drawing it myself made me realise that my character sheet is straight out bad and doesn't reflect who the character is. And I think getting polished art based on poor design choices would only solidify mediocrity of the design; it'd be absolutely unmemorable, which is a grave sin for the poster character.
@nina_kali_nina @FloppySalmon Taking part in this thread somehow restores a lot of trust for me in humanity :)