cm0002Feb 11

Israel used weapons in Gaza that made thousands of Palestinians evaporate

https://europe.pub/post/9387830

Israel used weapons in Gaza that made thousands of Palestinians evaporate - Europe Pub

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Show threadQuokkaFeb 11
Israel must be destroyed, this is abhorrent.
Show threadAxiochusFeb 11
Ah yes, fighting genocide with genocide, as is tradition.
Show threadkreskinFeb 11
BS… destroying the state of israel doesnt mean the people are destroyed. Running interference for genocide are you? Thats pretty gross.
Show threadAxiochusFeb 11
Sure buddy, I’m with the IDF, explicitly calling what Israel does a genocide. We can argue semantics, but I think you’ll find that at least some people saying shit like ‘Israel must be destroyed’ actually mean this as a call for violence against Israelis.
Show threadQuokkaFeb 11
No, it’s meant as a call to action for removing the state of Israel.
Show threadmonkeyFromTheLakeFeb 11
How so you remove the state of Israel? What do you mean by that? It’s politicians? It’s institutions? It’s territory? I am actually curious.
Show threadQuokkaFeb 11

You give control of the land back to the Palestinians.

Same as has been done with any other colonial nation that’s land was given back to the people living there such as happened with Rhodesia/Zimbabwe.

Show threadmonkeyFromTheLakeFeb 11
What do you mean with giving control back to Palestinians? Should they take over the government of Israel and unify it with their current territory/government? What would happen with Israelis? You think those people will all of a sudden get along?
Show threadlumpenproletariatFeb 11

Who gives a fuck what happens to the Israelis.

Do you also care for the plight of the Nazis who settled into the lands they genocided, after the war ended?

Show threadmonkeyFromTheLakeFeb 11
I don’t think that there is any sense in what people here are saying. You all know that what you are proposing won’t stop the killing on either side. I guess you do this out of anger and I can understand that. But this won’t solve anything.
Show threadlumpenproletariatFeb 11

Israel no longer existing would stop the killing by Israel.

It’s not a stance I think can be realistically achieved while western states back Israel and their genocide.

It’s the stance I wish to see happen. I am powerless but that doesn’t mean I can’t want an ideal outcome.

Show threadmonkeyFromTheLakeFeb 12
If this is your ideal outcome you are no better then the worst Israelis are
Show threadshani66Feb 13
Self defense is objectively better than aggressive genocide.
Show threadmonkeyFromTheLake
Eradicating another nation is not selfe defense it is literally the definition of genocide.
Feb 13 at 5:50amWeb
Show threadlumpenproletariatFeb 13

That is literally not the definition of genocide. Eradicating nations is the goal of every anarchist.

Genocide is eradicating peoples, of which no one is calling for here. You are the only one even hinting at that topic.

Show threadmonkeyFromTheLakeFeb 13
You said Israel no longer existing would stop the killing from Israels Side. Now I do not see Israelis willingly giving up their country and leave. Eradicating the nation in the sense of nation state seems unlikely but even if this was done I don’t think that it would get quieter in the region. If anything I would expect things to get worse. So judging from that I think that what you are proposing is a pipe dream but maybe I am not seeing what you mean exactly. Would you care to elaborate. Probably provide an actual plan. As a small disclaimer, I am fairly new to the fedivers and I did not know that this instance is tending to the ideas of anarchy. Also I am not very knowledged in anarchy, what is really ment by that (to me it means something similar to rulelessness).