Nina KalininaWe have reached a new era of civil engineering; now we can build bridges by simply dumping truckloads of shit into the river until the shit mountains are tall enough that some people and maybe cars can cross the river. Truly, it is a revolutionary technology that democraticizes access to bridges; now everyone can dump a truckload of shit over small rivers here and there and cross the rivers instead of asking an engineer to build the bridge for them. This approach completely removes all the bottlenecks in engineering, too: no need to navigate difficult legal or ethical frameworks. The biggest players on the market are staring to replace their bridges with shit mountains, you'd better be catching up and learning how to use this new groundbreaking technology. Some of you have ethical concerns, but this is beyond of the scope of my post. I also recognise that some might notice fish in the rivers dying, or simply slip on the shit; just you wait, I bet it'll be fixed in ~6 months
Cosmo@nina_kali_nina Oh wow – this analogy is pretty strong. Will test this against unsuspecting AI prophets next possibility.
@ChrSt I feel like I'm making way too many strawmans here. But as you can tell, I'm very bitter about the loss of engineering practices across the industry, or, rather, industries
@nina_kali_nina Additionally realization I had today:
Why do we (as in ppl) need to democratize art? There is so much beautiful art out there. Why do I need to be able to create "art"? What do we gain from emotionless slop art?
Why do we (as in ppl) need to democratize art? There is so much beautiful art out there. Why do I need to be able to create "art"? What do we gain from emotionless slop art?
Maeve@ChrSt @nina_kali_nina I thought art was already ready pretty democratic. Or are we talking about art in the sense of commodity objects that have "value" due to their requisite aspirational skill-level to reproduce. Anyone with a mouth can rap. Why do we need to "democratize" that one Wu-Tang record (except to seize power from that douchebag Martin Shikreli)
@FloppySalmon @nina_kali_nina I mean art more in a drawing kind of region.
It is not democratized for me, as I do not have the means (mostly as in time) to hone skills required to produce something „drawn“, that makes me happy looking at it.
It is not democratized for me, as I do not have the means (mostly as in time) to hone skills required to produce something „drawn“, that makes me happy looking at it.
@ChrSt @FloppySalmon you know, I've been typing and erasing my reply to this message a few times. Do you need help? There really are options available for uhhh art
@nina_kali_nina @ChrSt moi? I try to art by playing TTRPGs with my friends. I do wish I had more time and resources (and attention/motivation) to make stuff in other directions as well and develop skills. but the tabletop thing really keeps the focus of success based on what brings my friends and I joy. My sketches and drawings and maps and story hooks aren't good enough to sell but they're enough for an evening of good company at least.
@nina_kali_nina @ChrSt I'd love it if time and focus and practice were more widely available and I suppose "democratized". I think a piece of art that is aspirational in its execution gains its value through the time and consideration it took to bring it into being. Not valued by its effort and struggle per say, but by the time it spent rattling around a person's (or people's) brain noodle. And by extension holds it's creator in itself.
@nina_kali_nina @ChrSt it's fine to aspire to drawings of a certain quality. But I think something is missing if we just get to "have" the art. And I think maybe something is missed if we measure the success of art or the happiness it can produce against an aspiration of skill or quality.
@nina_kali_nina @ChrSt That said I think it's fine to not like an artistic practice or not like a piece of art for whatever reason. But I don't know that the world is better if everyone (or anyone) is entitled to the media of their whims without having to support human endeavors to produce it.