GrapheneOSWe need more 10Gbps or higher dedicated servers for hosting our OS and app updates. We have North America covered well enough via sponsored servers from ReliableSite in both Miami and Los Angeles and a sponsored server from Xenyth in Toronto but no longer have any left in Europe.
We can afford to pay for a couple 10Gbps servers in Europe if needed but it would be better if we could get them sponsored. For Europe, we use an average of 1Gbps to 2Gbps over the course of a month but it's very bursty so we need 10Gbps to 20Gbps total capacity for it in Europe.
We can afford to pay for it but hosting companies providing sponsorships saves significant money we can use to pay more developers to improve privacy, security, usability and compatibility for GrapheneOS. We document server sponsors on our servers page: https://grapheneos.org/articles/grapheneos-servers#releases.grapheneos.org.
It doesn't necessarily need to be fully sponsored. If we could pay for servers at cost and especially cheaper access to bandwidth based on actual transit/peering costs that would help a lot. 10Gbps unmetered is usually quite expensive and also inefficient since our use is bursty.
We received a bunch of potential sponsorship offers for servers which we're following up. We're going to focus on following up the offers from server providers first since they'll be able to get us what we need more quickly. We'll follow up the likely more complex ones after.
Stefan ThöniHey @init7, how about sponsoring a server for @GrapheneOS?
I Quit Smoking@GrapheneOS i believe debian does update polling time a little randomized to reduce burst usage. could grapheneos do similar to have a more distributed network usage?
@iquitsmoking Update checks use the standard JobScheduler which spreads out the checks. Update checks are every 6 hours with the full default flex up to 12h.
Debian barely has software versions are frozen for years and doesn't have fully automated updates. They're also fine with using a huge number of sketchy third party mirrors and don't care about having privacy for which software people are using including mostly not using HTTPS due to package signing. It's not really a similar situation.
Armin
Greg Harvey 🌍@GrapheneOS Maybe try Scaleway? Datacentres in Paris, Amsterdam and Warsaw. French datacentres are 100% renewable energy powered: https://www.scaleway.com
@greg_harvey Edited:
It seems they're based in France which we're currently trying to avoid due to major hostility from French national law enforcement and their government towards end-to-end encryption and secure devices. French law enforcement specifically targeted GrapheneOS with fearmongering and spread it in a bunch of the French media. They're trying to make it seem as if GrapheneOS is for criminals and are trying to justify taking action against us so we don't want to bne involved there.
@GrapheneOS Have you asked them if they'll be the sponsor? They might give you the servers if you ask? 😃
Rodirik@rodirik @greg_harvey If the company is based in France then we're going to be avoiding it due to avoiding servers or server providers based in France right now.
@rodirik @greg_harvey Edited the response above based on that, didn't realize it at the time.
@GrapheneOS @rodirik Fair enough. People have already mentioned Hetzner, Exoscale in Switzerland seem pretty good, and there's IONOS (German) too. Hope that helps.
@greg_harvey @GrapheneOS @rodirik I love Hetzner, they are really reliable and prices are okay as well
@chefx @greg_harvey @rodirik Their dedicated servers are very competitively priced but their 10G port upgrade isn't exactly cheap. See https://docs.hetzner.com/robot/dedicated-server/network/10g-uplink/. It's 1 EUR per TB above the included 20TB. Their regular 1Gbps port included with each server is unmetered but they might get upset if it was actually used as advertised. That's somewhat implied by the fact that 10G is metered despite even a server like https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ax41-nvme/configurator/#/ having 1G unmetered.
@GrapheneOS Ah, OK. I was not aware of that, sorry to hear it.
Florian@GrapheneOS I wonder if manitu @team would be interested in making you a special offer for your special needs.
CandlesARG@GrapheneOS not Europe specifically but would you guys consider hosting in Australia??? If safe to do so I mean.
Isarblues
R.C.@GrapheneOS @upcloud interested?