Eugen RochkoFeb 9

RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community Discord. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

Show threadГригорий Клюшников

I don't understand why all centralized services suddenly insist on actually verifying their users' age for real. What was wrong with asking for a birth date or even just presenting a "yes I'm 18 or older" button? NSFW websites somehow still do just fine with that, but Discord, which is much less "risky" in comparison, somehow needs real verification?

Gosh I miss the old internet.

Feb 9 at 4:15pmWeb
Show threadjjsmithFeb 9
@grishka @Gargron I'm thinking it's to avoid problems with the government if it were to come to them having to come in.
Show threadEricFeb 9

@grishka "for the children" /s

It's because they want to know who you are, and they want to be able to attribute you to other services where this identity is known to build out their web of surveillance.

Show threadDarwin WoodkaFeb 9

@grishka @Gargron

It's going to kill them with the gaming community. Absolutely kill them.

Show threadOwl EyesFeb 9
@darwinwoodka @grishka @Gargron I'm with you in spirit here, but I seriously doubt this, considering the actual teens I know, and how "path of least resistance" they are. Alas, no #ElbowsUp for these heel-dragging #Canadian teens I know! I'll believe it when I see it.
Show threadSamFeb 9
@[email protected] @Gargron It all started with the UK's Online Safety Act, where we now ID for porn sites, the UK Gov has since pushed for IDing on these platforms and it's being pushed out worldwide as it's not cost effective for just one country.

It's stupid and is one of the reasons I'm finding alternatives for friends
Show threadГригорий КлюшниковFeb 9
Sam, so what happens if a porn site doesn't have any presence (e.g. a legal entity) in the UK, but doesn't ask for IDs either?
Show threadSamFeb 9
@[email protected] @Gargron If they refuse to ID people they can get 'fines of up to £18 million or 10% of qualifying worldwide revenue' whichever is bigger.

It's sadly not just porn sites but also self-help sites, subreddits, communities and all sorts now.
Show threadГригорий КлюшниковFeb 9
Sam, yeah but how could that be enforced against a foreign entity? (maybe it's a stupid question, idk)
Show threadSamFeb 9
@[email protected] You can fine foreign entities if they operate in your country. If they don't obey they can get blocked from the whole UK internet, we currently don't have access to Rule34, PornHub (at least the NSFW area) along with a few other NSFW services at all, others are IDed and illegal content has been made easier for children to find as these safer sites are now wiped out. So the OSA has done a lot more damage than fix.
Show threadJoeFeb 9
@grishka @Gargron @sam they cant, they tried to do it to 4chan and essentially got told to roll it up and stuff it up the rah