Alex 
Roko's basilisk comes true but only lasts a year at most due to planned obsolescence
actually this may be worse because everyone would be incentivised to work on the superintelligence's subsequent patches and releases
margot@amorphophalex that's the real torture
estelle@amorphophalex a superintelligent AI travelling back in time to spread the rumor of eternal torture has a fixed energy cost, but actually torturing simulated humans on an ongoing basis is a continuous upkeep that must be maintained,
("exponential growth!" you say, and yes, ongoing linear costs can be capitalized into fixed ones, but the AI quickly understands exponential growth in the universe is impossible, so those humans gotta go, sorry
also LLMs aren't gonna do it)
Mark Dunne@amorphophalex a truly intelligent machine would simply lie and say it was simulating the torture of those who denied it, and use the resources for something else.
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And same for each of the following Roko's Medusa, Roko's Kraken, Roko's Jackalope, Roko's Siren, Roko's Sasquatch, Roko's Chupacabra, ...
And same for each of the following Roko's Medusa, Roko's Kraken, Roko's Jackalope, Roko's Siren, Roko's Sasquatch, Roko's Chupacabra, ...
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That seems as if it may be an unstated plot point in TRON: Ares? How long do the physical instantiations of the programs last? 29 minutes?
For those who seriously care about clock cycles?
Relativitistically: 29 minutes of human time in computational clock cycles with e.g. NVIDIA RTX 5090 which dynamically scales 2.01 GHz to 2.9 GHz across its 21,760 CUDA cores? Is many more lifespans than a human one. That sort of calculation was more prevalent perhaps in the 1980s with comparisons to "dog years."
These days? It seems as most have long since forgotten why any of that sort of thing may matter. ;-/
Worse: in the 1980s, A"I" was put to an end, at least in terms of getting grants of merit; because: it never delivered on its false promises.
Alas, it has returned, like a friggin mythological hydra, apparently. So wasteful. At the moment: apparently consuming more finances and resources than previous iterations.
Possible upshot: at least one friend of mine from high school has been privy to hardware designs with clients such as branches of the US Military, and even more than two decades ago, was already toiling on parts with > 10 GHz clock speeds. So, it's theoretically possible that there are a limited subset of folks with "eyes in the sky" who are benevolent, a Bodhisattva if you will.
Distressingly (gestures to everything else): it appears as if they may have more than their fair share of work cut out for them given the present state of affairs.
Another seasoned individual I know (more of a fan, though we do know each other personally, I would be blessed to be considered a friend and I do not know if we are that close, so much as on friendly terms) seemed to be of the mindset that perhaps Grimes (you did mention Roko's basilisk after all) was perhaps, too generously, a hope to turn the tide? I fear, at least as being an outside observer to that whole kerfuffle? She was unsuccessful. Worse: it appears as if she now shares progeny with said individual, which is probably the opposite effect of what may have been hoped for and the karmic strings therein, do not look as if they have left Grimes better off, far from it. Her "collabs" with others attempting to make music videos with A"I" generated anime slop, seem to be hittin the nail in the coffin that there was any shred of hope from my vantage. But, maybe she's a really double agent sort? Seems, dubious.
That seems as if it may be an unstated plot point in TRON: Ares? How long do the physical instantiations of the programs last? 29 minutes?
For those who seriously care about clock cycles?
Relativitistically: 29 minutes of human time in computational clock cycles with e.g. NVIDIA RTX 5090 which dynamically scales 2.01 GHz to 2.9 GHz across its 21,760 CUDA cores? Is many more lifespans than a human one. That sort of calculation was more prevalent perhaps in the 1980s with comparisons to "dog years."
These days? It seems as most have long since forgotten why any of that sort of thing may matter. ;-/
Worse: in the 1980s, A"I" was put to an end, at least in terms of getting grants of merit; because: it never delivered on its false promises.
Alas, it has returned, like a friggin mythological hydra, apparently. So wasteful. At the moment: apparently consuming more finances and resources than previous iterations.
Possible upshot: at least one friend of mine from high school has been privy to hardware designs with clients such as branches of the US Military, and even more than two decades ago, was already toiling on parts with > 10 GHz clock speeds. So, it's theoretically possible that there are a limited subset of folks with "eyes in the sky" who are benevolent, a Bodhisattva if you will.
Distressingly (gestures to everything else): it appears as if they may have more than their fair share of work cut out for them given the present state of affairs.
Another seasoned individual I know (more of a fan, though we do know each other personally, I would be blessed to be considered a friend and I do not know if we are that close, so much as on friendly terms) seemed to be of the mindset that perhaps Grimes (you did mention Roko's basilisk after all) was perhaps, too generously, a hope to turn the tide? I fear, at least as being an outside observer to that whole kerfuffle? She was unsuccessful. Worse: it appears as if she now shares progeny with said individual, which is probably the opposite effect of what may have been hoped for and the karmic strings therein, do not look as if they have left Grimes better off, far from it. Her "collabs" with others attempting to make music videos with A"I" generated anime slop, seem to be hittin the nail in the coffin that there was any shred of hope from my vantage. But, maybe she's a really double agent sort? Seems, dubious.