irelephant [he/him]About what I expected for the pro-billionaire protest.
0ndeadThe tip your landlord sign has to be satirical right? …right?
For my own sanity I’m going to believe it is
Its not, I’m so sorry: reddwarf.app/profile/…/3meddffnork2m
Silly world
fullsquare30 rationalists gathered outside and nobody told them to touch grass
The grass was literally right there, guys.
Those are all the same post, just on different bsky instances.
sc_griffithshe’s pretty unambiguously a nazi btw
Also a rapist per allegations on twitter.
“California is, I believe, the only state to give health insurance to people who come into the country illegally,” Kauffman said nervously. “I think we probably should not be providing that.”
“So you’d rather everyone just be sick, and get everyone else sick?” another reporter asked.
“That’s not what I’m saying,” said Kauffman.
“Isn’t that effectively what happens?” the reporter countered. “They don’t have access to health care and they just have to get sick, right?”
Kauffman contemplated that one for a moment. “Then they have to just get sick,” he said. “I mean, it’s unfortunate, but I think that it’s sort of impossible to have both liberal immigration laws and generous government benefits.”
Do I need to comment on this one?
“The Poor get ALL the breaks!”
ebuone thing that’s so funny to me about this is that of course you’re not supposed to say “we’re going to brutalize poor people so billionaires don’t have to pay more tax.” you’re supposed to say a rising tide lifts all boats, that kind of thing, and in fact there’s a pic in the article where he’s holding a sign about how a bigger pie means bigger slices. but as soon as he opens his mouth he just throws “we’re going to take the healthcare” out there, because he has no self awareness, no critical thinking, no understanding of what in fact he is trying to do
This passage from the above-linked lw post from the “stone age billionaire” guy about how counter-protestors tried to prevent them from speaking is really telling:
Then my friend Ben realized that this is a giant game of “I’m not touching you” for adults. Which is the stupidest dang thing IMO, but is pretty symetrical. A few of us just stood close together in a line, and we moved the speeches to the other side of that line. The counter-protestors would have to walk through us to block that speech, and we just didn’t move. When they tried to go around us we shifted to be in front of them. And they couldn’t actually touch us because that was against the rules, so this worked?
I thought we all understood at this point that baiting your enemies into violence was one of the operating principles behind a lot of protests like this. Maybe not as a primary goal (unless you’re the Westboro Bastard Church trying to get ammunition for lawsuits against the host city for failing to adequately protect you from the consequences of your own actions) but historically speaking violent repression isn’t exactly a failure state for these events. One of the biggest victories for civil disobedience was putting the violent absurdity of segregation on full display by getting massive crackdowns on them for sitting in a restaurant, for example. Making the implicit violence of injustice explicit changes the emotional valence and makes it harder for John Q Public to justify actively supporting it. If you don’t have enough mass support to implicitly threaten to do something (i.e. look at all these people who will cause problems if not recognized) then arguably being repressed is an even more significant goal because showing that “about two-dozen kooks believe something” isn’t exactly going to mobilize social change on its own and it’s not like billionaires care about solidarity with the hoi polloi.
But considering the absolute bafflement on display about counterprotests being willing to rudely inconvenience them it really feels like they understood that sometimes people who believe things will do this thing called a “protest” where they get together and chant slogans and wave signs and have a grand old time, but had no coherent idea of why and never really thought to ask.
GooseGang [she/her]Only property. Water, however, isn’t a human right. Right Nestle?
been mulling about these fuckers over the weekend and it’s absolutely wild how far they are wilful participants. self-identified chosen fuckwits, even if a number of them are (or at least, start out as) weaponised useful idiots
incredibly frustrating
o7___o7Do you reckon it was a net negaive for them? It’s heartening (to me) that it was such a damp squib, and it’s always entertaining to witness the civillians’ reaction to their first taste of TPOT.
Seeing these dingdongs in the sunlight helps observers get over the “It cant be that stupid” barrier, in my experience.
I think their brains have just been thoroughly microwaved by social media feedback loops. I remarked elsewhere that I’m not sure these people are or can be earnest about this (cf. the fact that the billionaires they’re celebrating are laser-focused on the tech they claim might doom the world); they’re simply too conditioned towards creating outrage content for Twitter. To me, this is more akin to LARPing “Leave Britney alone!” than it is serious political activism.
Bad example, those bitches did in fact need to leave Britney alone as several court cases have proven
To me, this is more akin to LARPing “Leave Britney alone!” than it is serious political activism.
I will be 0% surprised to learn that aella et co got paid 5+ figures for this shit
I mean I’d like to think that if someone was going to pull the paid protestor bit that they wouldn’t fail quite so embarrassingly, but then I think about our current crop of people in power and how fucking cooked they are and they can absolutely see them thinking “what does a mass protest cost, like $500?”
To me, this is more akin to LARPing “Leave Britney alone!” than it is serious political activism.
I wouldn’t be too sure about that. Don’t forget that monarchists are still a thing
But maybe a billionaire will notice them, and be pleased. That makes it all worthwhile.
David Gerardthe rationalists are still not over thiel getting sick of them
Man, not even enough marchers for me to post the Arrested Development photo of Tobias Funke proclaiming, “There are dozens of us! Dozens!”
Thank god
blakestacey“There are dozens of us! Dozens (fractional)!”
And when our descendants build a museum to these bizarre and painful times, there will be docents of them. Docents!
flere-imsahoi thought that the whole ruling principle of the effective altruists is primum non docere
Sleepius RaccoonusTranslation: humans should be allowed to be property again
Lol protest in Pac Heights.
Oh the reference is to that Aella. With the gnomes and LSD.
Sorry this is tiktok but I cant help but return to this: www.tiktok.com/…/7324804303376436526
Commentary straight from some of the sources
lesswrong.com/…/stone-age-billionaire-can-t-words…
Comments are fun
so many temporarily embarassed millionaires there, with the clarity of mind and purpose of a precocious seven-year-old.
geriksonstrong echoes of the (probably fictional) reddit tale of the anarcho-capitalist who gets beaten up by real anarchists in Greece.
V0ldek
Architeuthisreddit.com/…/i_was_beat_up_by_left_anarchists_in_…
I remember yelling “you’re breaking the NAP” and things like that. “Stop initiating force against me.”
Beats Yud’s fan fiction any day of the week.
you can’t have anarchy with democracy, that’s why democracy is the enemy
This explains a lot about why so many of these shitheels happily work with fascists and monarchists
i actually spoke to someone in greece who tried tracking this story to its roots, and is pretty sure it didn’t actually happen, but identified places it could have happened, so it seems to have been written by someone who’d been to exarcheia
I mean the vibe is pretty spot on, I’ll give them that, and the premise of someone making fashy noises in an anarchist squat and getting summarily thrown out on his ass is perfectly believable, but the protagonist seems like an obvious a parody character and I think his belief that everyone he meets should adhere to the NAP is meant as a running gag.
Also, I’d take issue with the unspoken premise that this would be an Exarcheia thing, getting your ass beat by anarchists who clocked you as a fascist (and vice versa) is a panhellenic phenomenon. Fascist here meaning less someone who likes Tucker Carlson and toothbrush mustaches, and more someone who is an organized member of a heavily nationalist sportball fan club and/or whatever is currently filling the void that Golden Dawn left but isn’t making the news.
Nice to see the top comment being about how such excess concentration of wealth is kind of bullshit actually.