ozonedAlexandre Oliva explains why LineageOS and GrapheneOS are not good enough
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Basil DiscoGoogle's recent decisions with Android was especially hard on custom ROM makers. These people must be really talented to still make this stuff despite Google's bullshit but at this point it's better to have a dumbphone than put up with Apple and Google. Might even be good for mental health and life overall.
@[email protected] even with dumb phones anymore they basically all have Android. And they still track you. That's a core function of a cell phone.
Blenderdumbass@[email protected] @[email protected] If you have a land-line, the operator of the landline knows where you are. You can have a dumbphone and have it always in the house. This is the exact same level of privacy. But with an extra benefit of being able to take it with you, when something very important is going on and you may rather have it than privacy.
@[email protected] @[email protected] I guess but I always thought of it like, "Well some of these dumbphones don't have stuff like location tracking (if you go for one without maps), doesn't have Google Play and other stuff so it must be more private" but I guess it's not a 100% thing.
@[email protected] @[email protected] They triangulate your location with cell-towers, based on how strong the signal is. Without your location you wont even have cellular connection. When a court order to track a person using cellular is issued. Usually it is done via cell-tower triangulation. Not via the operating system.
@[email protected] @[email protected] Didn't know that. I guess cell phones are inherently not private :|
@[email protected] @[email protected] I still think there's some privacy value in a dumbphone if your threat model only concerns surveillance capitalism i.e, companies like Google, Apple, etc gathering telemetry. Tapping into calls and triangulation seems more like a targetted attack done by the government rather than a passive data collection from all users for advertising, profiling and AI training purposes.
@[email protected] @[email protected] There is passive data collection done by the SIM operator company about your location. Same stuff. It can get into wrong hands.
@[email protected] @[email protected] That's true, I guess. The only way to prevent it is to not have a contact number so it's fucked either way.
@[email protected] @[email protected] Stallman had a suggestion for the Librem 5 one time. If there is still an operation Pager system in your town ( which more primitive radio transmissions ) this could be used to transmit the data about somebody wishing to call you. And then the phone could switch on the standard SIM card if you answer. And so you could control for where you answer. And whether you want to answer in the location you are.
@[email protected] @[email protected] That sounds interesting and I'll look into it.