We can reverse America’s decline | Bernie Sanders

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Why do I keep seeing people on here call Bernie a liberal zionist?
This is Lemmy. There are extreme left here. So left that they kind of horseshoe back towards the right again.
That’s a Ken M type account. Go with it.
I used to play golf with Ken M.
Did he bring tree branches instead of clubs?
Horseshoe theory is a psyop. It’s not a thing.
Why did you just say that?
‘Horseshoe theory’ is nonsense – the far right and far left have little in common

Both attack the status-quo, but for entirely different reasons.

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They only have little in common if you’re unimaginative.

Or one of them.

One day you might look back on this and laugh at all the CIA propaganda you believed was true.
Oooohhh, spooky! 👻

If you paid a visit to the CIA website and read through all of the FOIA stuff they admit to you might not be so flippant.

I mean, you might be, I don’t know who pays you…

You do see my username, right? I ain’t afraid of no ghost!
It’s… not the ghosts that you should worry about.
scratch a liberal and you'll find a fascist - Wiktionary, the free dictionary

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Yes. I mean, the only thing they have in common is they are part of the human political spectrum…

It truly boggles my mind that people don’t understand enough about politics and propaganda to realize this.

We’re not indoctrinated with this theory for no reason. Anti-communist propaganda serves bourgeois interests.
Best guess? They’re either truly dedicated satirists, gone off the metamodernist deep end into deep post-irony, or they’ve genuinely decided that modernist Grand Narratives weren’t really all that bad (let’s just ignore all the atrocities they brought about). After all, far-left modernist narratives aren’t at all like those other, far-right modernist narratives! They’re different, just like everybody else who is selling a utopia (that’s only practically attainable through an authoritarian regime).
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Unsure if edgy sarcasm or ML propaganda… Please disambiguate.

No more ML propaganda than the idea of horseshoe theory is CIA propaganda.

Also, ML propaganda? lol

Are still counting your age using “teen” at the end?

Thanks for disambiguating! :)

Di nada.

Also, no reason to use your 25 cent word of the day more than once. No one is impressed twice by its use.

Getting pissy at people for using a polysyllabic word twice isn’t coming across as the big own you seem to have been aiming for.

You are projecting David.

I’m far to old to be impressed by a new vocabulary word. Nothing more.

Sue me.

Also, no reason to use your 25 cent word of the day more than once. No one is impressed twice by its use.

This you?

Projecting? Projecting what?

“Getting pissy at people…”

I wasn’t “getting pissy”, I was making fun of them. YOU are the one getting pissy, dear boy.

It sure seems that reading for comprehension isn’t anyone elses strong suit here.

For some of us, disambiguation wasn’t a new word, and in particular,

Oh honey. It was obviously so new for him that he had to use it in two consecutive posts. He was trying for something. The kids always try to impress the adults in the room.

You’ll realize this eventually. Maybe.

I’m old enough to know that I don’t respect someone who tries to make out that anyone who disagrees with them is stupid or a child, particularly when they themselves feel the need to comment on someone using big words too often.

I wondered whether you had to look it up and it annoyed you, so you went on the attack and defaulted to sneering. But I think it’s more likely that you immediately realised that your attempt to belittle them for questioning whether you were serious had backfired spectacularly and they were amused that your response answered the question vividly instead of having the desired effect, and that’s what made you try to make them look small.

You and I have different senses of humour. I find things funny when there’s a surprise other meaning or something like that, but you find things funny when you’re calling other people dumb. It’s just that this time the irony is that you accidentally assumed someone had to pay money to have come across the word disambiguation before today. Again “ooo, swallowed a dictionary, have you?” isn’t the ‘massive own’ playground bullies think it is.

In case it wasn’t clear, I think your sneering responses to disagreement throughout this thread make you sound deeply insecure. Those of us who disagree with you aren’t all naïve and teenaged as you like to pretend. Come up with better arguments than that. Marx and Engels were very, very intelligent men and you are doing them a disservice by acting like trump in defence of their ideals.

That’s a whole lotta words for nothing.

Projecting AND covering up for insecurities.

Nice.

Good boy.

ROFL using (claimed) age as a proxy for maturity. Classic.
Again, if you want to come across as wise, you have to come up with more than insults.
It’s a thing, it’s just inaccurate — that doesn’t change the hard facts that both sides somehow find their way to differently flavored authoritarianism.

I mean, it’s a thing the way all propaganda is a thing, but it’s not just inaccurate it’s deliberate because that’s how propaganda works.

that doesn’t change the hard facts that both sides somehow find their way to differently flavored authoritarianism

If you truly believe this you have no concept of what Socialism and/or Communism actually is and have fallen HARD for CIA propaganda.

Start with the FOIA section of the CIA website before they take it all down and read up on what the actually admit to when it comes to propagandizing US citizens.

Good luck.

Yeah you’ll need to be more accurate than ‘start with the FOIA section’ — right now I’m laughing at John Mulholland being paid $3k by the CIA to write a fucking ‘guide on trickery and deception’.

Unless you’re trying to say I’ve fallen for propaganda because they’re good at sleight of hand, at that point I can just direct my laughter in your direction.

Keep reading. You’ll get there eventually. I’m sure you’re patient and diligent enough. I have faith in you.

YOU CAN DO EET!

Right.

While I’m doing that, how about you look up burden of proof buddy?

You’ll figure it out.

Bro, I don’t know what propaganda you’ve swallowed. I can’t anticipate where your knowledge holes are. You’ll have to be thorough on your own dime.

I’m not getting paid to educate you.

Frankly, IDGAF what you believe one way or the other, I’m just trying to help you by pointing out the obvious.

You’ve fallen for CIA propaganda. Like how you think Communism is bad and don’t seem to consider just how many billions of dollars the US spends every year to keep you believing that.

I’m sure the Fascists in control are happy with you though, so at least you’ve got that.

Toodles.

pointing out the obvious

By pointing to a set of pages that elaborate on what you mean?

No, let’s exam what you did instead:

  • you demean me by suggesting I’m simply brainwashed because I disagree with you, further by suggesting I’m uneducated.

  • you backpedal like a child into ‘IDGAF’, seriously I had flashbacks to high school debates.

  • you reiterate that you think I’m somehow brainwashed by the CIA into thinking communism is bad (which isn’t even remotely what I said)

  • you more or less call me a fascist

  • I was wrong to communicate with you at all, you are an idiot child.

    Look at you pulling out the numbered list!

    See, now try to imagine if you put even that much effort into figuring out what other low-hanging CIA propaganda you fell for!!

    You poor thing.

    you are an idiot child.

    So I’m getting that I should just lead with this when I address the clueless like you on Lemmy?

    Would that work better for you?

    I was trying to be nice, but if you require that kind of thing, I’m not yucking anybodies yum.

    You Idiot Child.

    If that’s you trying to be nice you need to get some therapy.

    LOL

    As if you deserve more.

    You don’t even realize you’re propagandized by the CIA.

    LOL