evacideFeb 5

Hey, remember that time I said that pointing out that AI is giving bad data to ICE is missing the point because ICE doesn't actually care if the data is good? Check out how right I am.

https://www.wired.com/story/cbp-ice-dhs-mobile-fortify-face-recognition-verify-identity/

ICE and CBP’s Face-Recognition App Can’t Actually Verify Who People Are

ICE has used Mobile Fortify to identify immigrants and citizens alike over 100,000 times, by one estimate. It wasn't built to work like that—and only got approved after DHS abandoned its own privacy rules.

WIRED
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@evacide The worst thing is, if they just used face recognition for passport verification, to eliminate human-judgement from the loop and speed things up (a la european passport control for EU citizens), I'd at least be okay with it. And then, for every kinda-okay use of facial recognition, they come up with something that's completely bullshit, and the law can't cope.
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@notecharlie @evacide

Why would you be ok with it? Why is anyone ok with a surveillance state apparatus? We don't need constant surveillance, it's anti-human whether it works or is merely about intimidation. Like, they're showing you that they WILL abuse it if it's there. Same lesson we learned about AI; the capitalist class will use it to suppress the rights of labor and exploit the working class.

Can we just learn a lesson for once? Can we just say "No" instead of caving to convenience?

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@contrasocial I believe it is *possible* to implement facial recognition for airport security and passport control in a way that is private. I have more faith in the EU having broadly done this (or at least having better data governance) than the US.

More importantly, for flights leaving the US, you can't opt out of facial recognition; for flights returning to the US, citizens can opt-out at the border but CBP will basically say you can't. So we should eliminate the human bias factor.

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@contrasocial Electronic passport control, and facial recognition generally, are not going away. So I'd like to see laws governing its use; protecting user data, limiting correlation across datasets, etc. Because the genie is not going back in the bottle, so it had damn well better improve my life.