đšEarly to RISA đ§The cops pay Anon a visit
kcSebAnd hereâs where we introduce you to this magical term called full disk encryption!
EmpatheticTeddyBearAnd if you use BitLocker, do NOT backup your recovery key to the cloud!
gizmodo.com/microsoft-reportedly-turned-over-bitlâŚ
Print out out, give it to a friend, donât mention it via electronic means (email, text, Snapchat, YouTube, and so onâŚ)
Ill be honest, this is clearly the best idea out there for passwords safety
Walk_blesseDnothing incriminating, your honour, just some harmless pranks such as water buckets above the doors.
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idunnololzIâll hide it at the end of my mix tape.
Hide it in a book in a buried chest on a minecraft world 5000 blocks from spawn.
Unironically not a terrible idea. Who tf would check your minecraft for irl keys. Could probably have a library in a world just full. Probably isnt encrypted though. Probably just plain text in a game file on your drive somewhere
I stole from someone else that hid the urls of porn sites in a chest when he was a kid. Think it was pretty old, probably on Reddit, learned about it maybe 2 years ago. I don't know anything about encryption or protecting sensitive information, certainly not of this nature, but it could potentially work. Would be quite a few chests full if anon is doing something with a lot of intricate details.
textureYeah, fair enough reaction, does sound insane when I think about it lol
SonotsugipaaDonât print it. Your previous prints are easily retrievable
This person should also turn off their computer and remove the RAM so itâs zeroed out if it gets siezed.
Full disk encryption doesnât help much if the pc is running anyway since the key will be in memory
They use forensic tools to clone the RAM before moving it. Probably depends on exploits so whether it will work may depend on your OS, but they have access to the hardware so there are a lot of possibilities.
Sir. HaxalotIs this actually practically achievable or mostly theoretical in a lab? Is it confirmed that the cops have actually managed to do this?
At least in Germany, I would be surprised if the cops could point to the RAM inside a computer. They will not open it before they take it with them.
Careful. There are levels to it, and from stories that I heard, those levels donât always communicate with each other. If you get the regular ânormal copsâ, then no, they wonât know anything more than the average joe about computers.
If get in deep enough shit, you might get a visit from the specialised cops, either the state or federal variety, and those guys know what they are doing.
Thatâs definitely the case in the Netherlands. I wouldnât trust the average cop to find the power button. But that doesnât mean the specialized teams donât have some really good ones.
And the guys who usually search houses know how to search houses, because they, well search houses regularly. Theyâve had dozens of cases in the past that couldnât be solved because someone has unplugged a pc too soon. They have regular trainings where they are updated on the newest developments. They have learned by now. Weâre not living in 2005 anymore and neither do the cops.
If a cop acts as if they donât have a clue, you have to be extra careful. They might be trying to lull you into a false sense of security. Theyâve been working with a lot of criminals before you, and most of those criminals have had computers and smartphones for 20 years now. They know what they are doing, nowadays.
They have a battery attached to flat wires. When you give a couple millimeters of room from the plug, they insert the flat wires and the computer will be powered from the battery.
If the computer is logged in, they have a USB device that mimics a mouse. It makes the mouse pointer move back and forth to prevent it from going to sleep or the screen saver.
If it can be proven you did that, thatâs gonna look real bad in court.
You can get in legal trouble for turning off your PC?
Thereâs no law against googling how to dispose of a body, but if you do, and youâre a suspect in a murder, itâs a real bad look for you.
Same story here. Probably legal, but definitely not a good look.
The comment that started this was talking about removing the RAM from your computer, which would mean disassembling it.
Youâre a bit hard of thinking, arenât you?
This is where I think NFC may finally be useful. If cops show up, I slide my phone by a hidden NFC tag, and an http request is sent to my desktop machine. Everything incriminating is wiped and the computer is turned off, before the cops can walk to the room.
Unless you have tied the NFC to an arc wielding torch how would proper data disposal process runs its course fast enough? You live in a manor with very long hallways?
Most of really nasty data is text or a few questionable apps, and should take very little time. Video and audio present a problem, but I think they can be speedily wiped by nuking the metadata parts, making recovery and identification difficult. Not sure how resilient modern formats are to data loss, but afaik e.g. AVI is quite reliant on the description of the stream (which iirc is inconveniently placed at the end of the file).
Nha my dude youâre lying to yourself if you think that it is nearly enough to survive the level of forensics that will happen in case of a motivated investigation.
You need the whole multipass erasure and overwriting or youâre toast. It takes hoursâŚ
First of all, it doesnât take hours to overwrite several text files and a few binaries. Second of all, I think I know better what my local cops would do. Itâs not NSA or Interpol. Lastly, this hypothetical obviously excludes stuff after which âmotivated investigationâ might come. That kind of data lives in encrypted files tucked in odd places.
Erh well, it takes hours with proper tooling with which I have first hand experience⌠and just as much experience with various police forces⌠admittedly my knowledge is limited to Europe and LA on that topic.
For reference I saw them deploy very serious means for stuff from csam to piracy so be careful on how you perceive their willing to be major annoyances.
But hey, this is my work experience I offer, you donât take it itâs not an issue; Iâm not invoicing my time anyway :)
Around here, cops are nasty but not very brainy, hi-tek, or invested. They will be annoying in more brute ways. The goal is just to not give them too much material to go off, so they find someone else whoâs easier to pester.
The boys and I have a racist group chat and my hard drive is full of kiddie porn and audio recordings of women peeing in public restrooms.
lmfao youâre going to need a more robust destruction plan
You seem to be confused about which side in my scenario is the cops.
ValmondBetter to have a âspareâ pc under your desk, with the real one hidden.
Cheaper and you wonât accidentally wipe your pc all the time.
But what are you all having on up your PCs??
Where I am, having a networked machine cemented up in the wall is the national pastime, for when a bunch of masked policemen show up with automatic rifles. As for whatâs on that machine, thatâs another national sport because no one is paying for those bastards to harass businesses.
As with many other suggestions made here, if it can be demonstrated in court that you had a system like this set up, itâs going to be a really bad look for you.
You see, Iâm one of those mysterious creatures who live in the lands outside the US. I know itâs gonna be a shock, but we do exist.
As I already explained in the thread, where I am, the goal is to not give cops any material to work with, so they find someone else to harass. All the really serious data is hidden better than this.
So do I, so lose the condescending attitude.
Yeah⌠About that.
Yeah, refusing a warrant is definitely a separate crime from whatever theyâre looking for on the computer. If something like this happens, the only way to protect yourself from a warrant is to fully delete everything on your computer. They canât arrest you for not handing over something that doesnât exist. The cops know this though, which is why they probably wouldnât give you that kind of warning without having a warrant ready to go, which is because this story is fake.