spujb(i wish they didn’t) rule
maria [she/her]I think by now they all think the same thing >v<
“Think” being applied rather generously for many of them.
diabetic_porcupineCollective cognizance
All these conspiracy theories turning out to be true are starting to make me wonder about the moon landing. Maybe the world really is flat?
TotallynotJessicaThese “conspiracies” that are turning out to be true were not the ones conspiracy theorists really cared for. Those fuckers were following a secret agent larping grifter who posted on a CSAM website he ran with his dad. The theorists were pawns in the conspiracy, a conspiracy to turn pedophilia into a toothless tool, oppress minorities, and support those already in power.
The rich and political elites are depraved freaks who treat people as disposable and do fucked up things because they can get away with it. This is capitalism working as intended. This sort of evil is what classism and legalized corruption always lead to. Unless the conspiracy actually challenges this fundamental power structure, it only helps them.
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]Maybe the world really is flat?
Nah. Easy way to see this is to derive (or look up) the expressions for the gravitational potential due to a sphere and due to a uniform plane. Then, fit the actual gravitational potential using known weights and simple gear to the same nonlinearities found in the two derivations. The spherical expression should be a much closer match. My college physics course actually had a unit where we fit the gravitational potential, so it’s extremely technically easy to do.
Also, airliners fly long haul flights in patterns that “look curved” on any flat map. This is because topologically speaking, a flat plane surface has one global chart, whereas there is no global chart for the sphere, so any chart map will distort the true distances compared to the original sphere. (The neat thing about the theory of manifolds is that all these words have technical mathematical definitions that basically line up with their plain English usage.) This shows that, at least when it comes to flying airplanes, i.e. what ways you are allowed to traverse the sphere, the Earth is topologically equivalent to a sphere.
the moon landing
Also nah.
wtop.com/…/the-experiment-still-running-on-the-mo…
This one is harder to demonstrate without a bit of money.
But also…if it never happened, why would the Soviet Union have let the government win the Space Race? There was enough historical and scientific evidence at the time for all world powers to conclude that it must have happened.
Proof we made it to the moon: You can still bounce a laser off it today
One of the experiments taken into space on Apollo 11 was called the Lunar Laser Retro-Reflector, and it still works even today (though perhaps not as well as it did), just like it did in a 2010 episode of “The Big Bang Theory.
if it never happened, why would the Soviet Union have let the government win the Space Race?
If it never happened, wouldn’t the Soviet Union be the winner? Why disturb the propaganda of the US?
Yes, exactly. I’m trying to say the moon landing did happen.
You believe it but you can’t rely on the USSR for a disproof. The USSR has an advantage if the US population doesn’t push for the technological progress to be able to do spaceflight. Then there are no ICBMs and the USSR is more secure.
I think ICBM’s predate the moon landing, e.g. the Minuteman I. Like if faked the moon landing, I’m not sure why it would make sense for the USSR not to have taken advantage of that, because it would have been an excellent opportunity to embarrass on the world stage.
I think ICBM’s predate the moon landing
If the moon landing is fake then the ICBMs can be fake, too.
en.wikipedia.org/…/Third-party_evidence_for_Apoll…
That’s an interesting site.
If the moon landing is fake then the ICBMs can be fake, too.
Minuteman III ICBM Launch
Horseshoe theory
Is bullshit. Fishhook theory, on the other hand…
Don’t forget the tankies
Jorunn (she/her)We need a combo version of the far right dangling over the centrists and the tankies shooting off towards the right
I feel like the fishhook theory only works so well because a lot of centrists* fear losing what little they have, and are easily coerced into thinking that socialism means you will have to give up your wealth.
When reality is, socialism means EVERYONE benefits, except for the multimillionnaires and billionnaire oligarchs. The chance of you being one, or even becoming one, is smaller than you dying from a shower accident because of a lack of regulations.
* And by that I mean actual centrists, not the far-right people who claim to be centrists, because they love moving goalposts into the realm of harm.
Conspiracy theorists were a psyop to make investigating actual conspiracies unpalatable to the left.
Yeah they started pizza gate to make it look just as absurd when their actual crimes came to light.
Wait until you hear about the 2016, 2020, and 2024(most pronounced) having Russian Tails in them for Trump. electiontruthalliance.org (Scroll down to the map and click on a state for the data)
These are the things, in combination with all the republicans talking openly of a secret plan for the 2024 election, that make me want to plan for fleeing the country after the next election.
Valid. Running is a reasonable survival strategy. I know because I’m here today due to my Great Grandad running from Germany and handing over information to the U.S…
I’m choosing to stay and fight, but I will never shit on someone choosing to survive by running. It’s a valid choice.
chicken
Th4tGuyIIThe problem with your regular conspiracy theorist is that the conspiracies they usually believe in are born of ignorance, and can be utterly dismantled with relatively little research.
Why would a corrupt, tax-dodging billionaire who literally embezzeled from a children's charity be willing to help anyone but himself?
How could there be a pedo-ring hosted in the basement of a random pizza restaurant with no basement?
From my experience at least, the conspiracies that turn out to be true are usually those where there is a concrete benefit to those involved, especially when it involves depravity.
Who stands to benefit from suppression of the Earth being flat, and how do they benefit?
Even to more "credible" conspiracies. If vaccines did cause Autism, and it was provable - why wouldn't one of the big pharmaceuticals have ripped their competition to shreds by showing that and releasing their own that doesn't?
Do pharmaceutical giants not like kicking their competition out the market and securing more profit for themselves?
Do pharmaceutical giants not like kicking their competition out the market and securing more profit for themselves?
Don’t car conpanies not like kicking their competition out the market and securing more profit for themselves by offering electric cars and solar cells in the 80ies?
Don’t car conpanies not like kicking their competition out the market and securing more profit for themselves by offering electric cars and solar cells in the 80ies?
I mean EVs wouldn’t have made a profit at that time. Battery tech has been getting better and better over the last century and change, and batteries have been getting cheaper - but it’s STILL more expensive to build an EV than an ICE car. It’s getting better by the year though. Also with ICE cars, you get to sell more parts through the dealership system lol
As @boonhet said, it isn't really the same scenario.
There were EVs as early as the 19th century (wikipedia I know, but I'm not doing a deep dive for a forum comment) and they were used for various applications.
So while there definitely was, and still is very much an anti-green economy conspiracy going on... that wasn't the only factor supressing EVs from mass production and usage back then.
Battery chemistry was inefficient - so a battery big enough to compete with IC engines even back then would've needed to be HUGE, making it both too unwieldy and expensive to justify putting into a car.
Any battery you could actually fit into a reasonably sized car was still prohibitively expensive, and had nowhere near the mileage to compete with the day's IC engines. So they just weren't viable for the masses.
And as Boon said, if nobody can make a profit making EVs for consuners, they simply won't make them for consumers.
It's only with cheaper and more efficient battery chemistry, and a booming green economy thanks to consumer pressure, that they're now starting to be able to make EVs that can compete with IC engines on both price and mileage - which is what consumers really care about.
And Israel
Well like pedophiles, Israel definitely has an issue with children. Although in their case the issue manifest itself as murder rather than molestation.
Epstein and Ghisline were Mossad so…
I think they were toys for anyone who wanted blackmail stupid billionaires. So it is a list which probably includes Mossad, Russia and so on.
No they were literally Israeli intelligence operatives
I have seen people claiming both i.e he is Mossad or he is a Russian agent, ex:
telegraph.co.uk/…/epstein-links-to-putin-and-fsb-…
My take on this is both Russia and Israel likely wanted to use him as leverage, he is just too good a target to pass. I don’t think any of this can really be proven though. Everyone just goes with whatever they think is the most reasonable.
orphan paste
from the orphan crushing machine
“run by israel” is a little old hat but “pedophile oligarchs are exploiting violent fascist tendencies of a classically American failure to shroud their own abuses and investments” technically does fall within that label so we will let it slide
