Recently, I was thinking about why men¹ talk over women, and I think it's less a gender thing, and more of a...

"men¹ are taught to talk over anyone who doesn't talk more assertively than they do"

In my roles as an executive at several tech companies, the one negative feedback I got on almost every review was that I wasn't assertive enough in meetings with other execs. One male CEO even told me "you need to interrupt more, talk more—even if you don't know the answer. Otherwise they'll think you don't have anything to say". Which, honestly, churned my stomach.

The feedback was clear, if I wanted to succeed I needed to talk like the guys¹ in the boardroom—the same ones¹ who'd interrupt to ask a question I was already in the middle of explaining, who'd repeat a suggestion I'd just made—only louder, who'd make some cute comment that would derail my presentation, who'd explain my position back to me as though they'd just thought of it.

I needed to do that...and I needed to do it louder.

Otherwise men¹ weren't going to listen to me.

¹ not all men

@alice one thing I've noticed is how some people never pause to give anyone else even a chance to speak. As if there's a filibuster that needs to be kept going uninterrupted or something. And if you don't counter what they're saying when is wrong they consider you to have agreed whatever incorrect statement it is. Quite tiring.

Like you're on a CSMA/CA medium, but some people treat it as CSMA/CD but don't bother with the CD aspect of it 🤷‍♀️

(That's Carrier Sense Multiple Access, with either Collision Avoidance or Collision Detection, for those not in the networking world)

@anyia @alice Love the analogy!


(It could be worse. Never forget Appletalk, the protocol where address assignment is
based on jabbering....)

@zakalwe I didn't think that was much worse than, after having asked reception for the right hall, then entering and asking "Is this seat free?". Mind, I never did do any native AppleTalk

@alice