Banned for pointing out anti-vegan trolls past behaviour

https://lemmy.ml/post/42668945

Banned for pointing out anti-vegan trolls past behaviour - Lemmy

## In short ## I got a reply from a prolific anti-vegan troll and referred them back to an earlier conversation we had. Got banned for “harassment” and “following someone around” when in fact they replied to me and keep following vegans around when they post against anti-vegan propaganda. The 14-day ban and comment removals by @[email protected] [/u/[email protected]] [https://lemmy.world/u/aeronmelon]: https://lem.lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog/45638?page=1&actionType=All&modId=6106918&userId=18352111 [https://lem.lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog/45638?page=1&actionType=All&modId=6106918&userId=18352111] mod Banned mathemachristian he/him from the community Microblog [email protected] reason: If you have nothing better to do than to follow someone else around. expires: in 13 days mod Removed Comment Oh hey its you (link to https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/15837346) by mathemachristian he/him reason: Harassment, attempted brigading. mod Removed Comment Oh hey its you (link to https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/15837346) by mathemachristian he/him reason: Harassment, attempted brigading. [https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/3ac4e335-809d-469f-af29-dd104722483e.png] And the posts in question: * https://lem.lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/19014218 [https://lem.lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/19014218] * https://lem.lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/19014077 [https://lem.lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/19014077] ## With background ## @[email protected] [/u/[email protected]] [https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/u/commie] is a very dedicated anti-vegan troll [https://lem.lemmy.blahaj.zone/search?q=vegan&type=Comments&listingType=All&creatorId=1907677&page=6&sort=New&titleOnly=false] whos trolling style Sartre best described for anti-semites: > Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity > of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to > challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who > is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The > anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with > discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the > seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, > since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and > disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall > silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is > past. Indeed they constantly make non-sequitur claims as replies to vegans, in the hopes of roping then into a defensive position under the guise of “debate”. Should someone engage them, they will use every sealioning, debatebro tactic in the book to tire her self-declared opponent out. No source is ever good enough, no proof ever strict enough etc. But when pressed to defend a claim they made they will promptly drop the conversation. To exemplify this I engaged with them a couple months ago and got a perfect showcase [lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/15837346] of their behaviour. I had never used this and have never replied to them since then (at least I don’t remember that I have and searching didn’t turn anything up). But then when they replied to me yesterday I did. And got promptly banned for “harassment” and “following someone around”. I messaged the mod who banned me to no reply. Their behaviour is being enabled by lemmy.world mods like @[email protected] [/u/[email protected]] [https://lemmy.world/u/aeronmelon] who will readily delete comments made by vegans should they dare step a foot outside of the norms of “civilized debate”, like e.g. in the same thread (1) [https://lem.lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/19012827] and (2) [https://lem.lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/18964864]. The petulant and incessant trolling by @[email protected] [/u/[email protected]] [https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/u/commie] is of course never subject to such moderation actions. And by incessant I really do mean that, they will turn up in every larger discussion about veganism. To any vegan comrades, do not engage this troll, you risk getting banned and your comments deleted. It’s not worth it, this person chooses and is committed to being blind. Antiveganism is a declared mission [https://lem.lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/14217056/9673328] of theirs.

By “ani vegan troll” you mean a person who disagrees with you?

By anti-vegan troll I mean someone who will turn up in any discussion about veganism of reasonable size with bad faith engagement bait masked as “rational and logical debate”, also known as debate pervertry, sealioning, JAQing off etc.

Please have a look at their past posts for yourself, this isn’t someone merely disagreeing, this is a pattern of intentionally disruptive behaviour.

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Lemmy

I looked at yours. You are one of the vegan fanatics implying other people are somehow “less moral” than yourself because they don’t share your dietary choices.

You are actually worse than trolls as you appear to genuinely hold warped, distorted, bizarre belief in your own moral supremacy.

based on your modlog you seem like exactly the person being described. I’m sorry you’re so emotionally attached to eating the murder treats
Oh, another fanatical vegan? 😂
I don’t know about fanatical. While I am vegan in my daily life, I’d eat a human if given a chance.

I don’t know about fanatical

eating the murder treats

🤦

did the animals consent to being imprisoned until getting chopped up?

even if we drop that it still holds up:

You seem emotionally attached to treats.

Can’t hear you through the sound of me munching a ham sandwich, you may need to repeat this.

you seem emotionally attached to treats

can’t hear you through the sound of my treats

😙👌

perfect, don’t change a thing